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drrayeye Wrote:
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> According to Chomsky, language is genetic--it's
> innate.

I would go a few steps further and say that language is innate to life. More accurately consciousness is innate and all life has at least rudimentary language (even if it's just the ability to transmit and receive a "1" and a "0").

> Studies of speech development all over
> the word suggest universal progression in spoken
> language, with basic competency established by the
> fifth year.

I know a one year old who can communicate complex ideas. Her mother could communicate even younger.

I believe that animals communicate (simple ideas) from birth.

> It's also possible to communicate by
> expression, touch, and gesture--using abstract
> symbols as needed. That's not nearly as
> universal.

Indeed! There is even chemical reproductive communication. Many animals have strange organs that receive and transmit light, sound, electric, etc. We've barely scratched the surface of the means and nature of communication. Even humans use body language, inflection, or a look in the eye to modify or make statements. Since we all think differently we also all use different means and modes of communication.

Animals never appear to use abstractions and this apparently applies to the first human languages as well.

> IMO, whenever a large enough group of people lived
> together, an alphabet developed, became
> standardized, and was taught. For smaller
> groupings of people, or when a culture crashed, it
> was unnecessary.

As Chomsky said, though, language is genetic. Why wouldn't all humans share almost the exact same language back when humans could communicate from birth? Why should we assume that language has always been this way and humans just naturally are the only species to use abstractions and symbols?

You're suggesting that many languages arose in far flung and disparate cultures but no such evidence exists before 2000 BC or at least before the invention of writing. I could agree that writing could have been more widespread and earlier than 3200 BC.

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Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 1744 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 07:56
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 223 Spiros 03-Sep-19 10:50
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 208 MDaines 03-Sep-19 12:59
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 200 drrayeye 03-Sep-19 13:22
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 255 MDaines 03-Sep-19 13:51
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 125 cladking 13-Oct-19 16:08
For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 156 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 06:52
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 160 Spiros 07-Sep-19 07:18
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 127 drrayeye 07-Sep-19 17:16
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 142 Spiros 07-Sep-19 17:26
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 132 drrayeye 09-Sep-19 16:17
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 137 Eddie Larry 07-Sep-19 18:13
Re: For those who believe Moses wrote in "pre Hebrew" 141 drrayeye 08-Sep-19 01:44
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 162 Thanos5150 09-Sep-19 17:15
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 148 drrayeye 10-Sep-19 16:34
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 140 Thanos5150 11-Sep-19 15:55
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 144 drrayeye 11-Sep-19 18:06
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 130 Thanos5150 11-Sep-19 23:21
different Patterns of influence 128 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 03:02
Re: different Patterns of influence 132 Thanos5150 12-Sep-19 03:14
Re: different Patterns of influence 155 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 03:42
Seriously? 177 Barbelo 09-Sep-19 22:34
modern psycholinguistic considerations 119 drrayeye 17-Sep-19 20:43
Re: modern psycholinguistic considerations 122 Eddie Larry 17-Sep-19 22:06
further cognitive limits on alphabet construction 120 drrayeye 21-Sep-19 20:07
HW CM Y CN RD THS? 124 drrayeye 24-Sep-19 20:32
Re: HW CM Y CN RD THS? 108 Eddie Larry 24-Sep-19 20:49
Some of the answers 136 drrayeye 25-Sep-19 01:58
Re: Some of the answers 116 Eddie Larry 04-Oct-19 15:01
Re: Some of the answers 105 drrayeye 05-Oct-19 06:01
Hypothesis 108 drrayeye 04-Oct-19 04:26
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 111 seasmith 07-Oct-19 03:37
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 126 seasmith 07-Oct-19 03:44
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 104 drrayeye 08-Oct-19 06:55
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 95 seasmith 10-Oct-19 00:27
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 97 drrayeye 11-Oct-19 03:22
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 95 seasmith 12-Oct-19 01:39
Could you add 92 drrayeye 12-Oct-19 02:14
History of the alphabet 88 Sirfiroth 12-Oct-19 02:59
Re: History of the alphabet 84 drrayeye 12-Oct-19 04:00
Re: History of the alphabet 81 Eddie Larry 12-Oct-19 04:05
Re: History of the alphabet 90 drrayeye 12-Oct-19 06:32
Re: History of the alphabet 92 Eddie Larry 12-Oct-19 14:52
Re: History of the alphabet 87 drrayeye 13-Oct-19 05:06
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 110 cladking 13-Oct-19 02:44
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 116 cladking 13-Oct-19 13:24
Psycholinguistics 82 drrayeye 15-Oct-19 19:36
Re: Psycholinguistics 88 cladking 15-Oct-19 20:17
Re: Psycholinguistics 210 drrayeye 16-Oct-19 01:15
Re: Psycholinguistics 83 cladking 27-Oct-19 14:51
Re: Psycholinguistics 77 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 02:04
Re: Psycholinguistics 65 cladking 03-Nov-19 14:36
Infants, Babies, and young children 67 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 23:02
Re: Infants, Babies, and young children 73 cladking 04-Nov-19 15:10
Re: Infants, Babies, and young children 75 drrayeye 04-Nov-19 17:21
Re: Infants, Babies, and young children 89 cladking 05-Nov-19 01:57
Re: Infants, Babies, and young children 118 drrayeye 05-Nov-19 18:40
Speechery & Glyphery 80 seasmith 03-Nov-19 04:02
Re: Speechery & Glyphery 71 cladking 03-Nov-19 15:02
Sign, symbol, and meaning: linguistic relativity 69 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 23:25
Re: Who invented the first syllabic alphabet? 92 seasmith 13-Oct-19 17:20
Do you have an example of an alphabet that is Not syllabic ? 89 drrayeye 13-Oct-19 22:46
I'm familiar with Rohl 86 drrayeye 13-Oct-19 23:12
Re: I'm familiar with Rohl 92 seasmith 13-Oct-19 23:53
Re: I'm familiar with Rohl 93 drrayeye 14-Oct-19 02:15
Re: I'm familiar with Rohl 96 seasmith 14-Oct-19 18:29
Re: I'm familiar with Rohl 86 drrayeye 14-Oct-19 19:21
Ancient written symbols 92 drrayeye 17-Oct-19 01:01
Summary: part one 91 drrayeye 20-Oct-19 07:12
Re: Summary: part two 86 drrayeye 27-Oct-19 06:36
Re: Summary: part one 83 cladking 27-Oct-19 14:30


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