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2585 31-May 13-Oct 10-Oct 16-Oct

I think this is more interesting.

Some believe that the orientation of the Menkaure causeway points to the equinox. Since the children born in the Westkar papyrus myth seem to relate to the pharaoh's that follow the reign of Menkaure we might take note of this piece of information.

So the question that naturally arises is: What if the 15th day of the first month of season peret coincides with the fall equinox, then based on the above table what dates are candidates?

1. first date

October 13 2584 BC

Fall equinox

On this day we have a new moon!

At Sunrise, the moon is 0.2% illuminated

We do see three planets in the sky before dawn(and before Moon rise). They do not form the Giza pyramid triangle, but the strange position of Venus forms a more acute triangle, like a boomerang.

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The eldest of them will be high priest in Heliopolis.

This makes sense, the eldest is the one born(rising) first. He is Saturn(Cronus). Cronus was the father of Zeus, who was the father of other Greek gods like Hermes, Apollo, etc.

Uranus which is faint being in Cancer, is the only planet seen to the West of the Ecliptic in regards to Saturn.


Saturn is powerful
Mercury kicks
Venus stays dark

Why does Venus stay dark? Because at that moment is only 3.5% illuminated.

But this could also refer to the Moon. It is only 0.2% illuminated.

Saturn is 'born' at 3:55 am
Mercury is 'born' at 4:23 am
Venus is 'born' at 4:45 am

the Moon is 'born' at 5:28 am it's azimuth is 89.07 degrees

the Sun is 'born' at 5:50 am it's azimuth is 89.37 degrees

The fact that it is Fall Equinox can be seen as the center of the Sun disk has a zero geometric altitude at an azimuth of 89.88 degrees(the closest day to the Fall equinox).



This is what the sky looks like when Spica is due East:



EIMI H ZΩH = IHΣOYΣ

[the-phaistos-disk.webnode.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01-Feb-20 17:58 by Spiros.

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