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Sirhope Wrote:
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> @engenbren
>
> Relating the evidence to a constellation
> astronomical date for the design of the Pyramid
> from the myth story, can you share a mathematical
> algorithm or your calculation method in math? For
> me I need more information than light years and
> what you perceive from a myth, this is to vague.
>
>
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The most interesting occurs on October 27
> 2581 BCE, which we will investigate further with
> the assumption that Khufu did indeed use this
> information to design his pyramid.

>
>
>

Hi Sirhope,

The paragraph you are quoting from makes clear that there are multiple such alignments. If I look to what might be a measurement or reckoning of the stars, it could mean multiple things - for example:
- position information such as latitude and longitude which may be derived via multiple methods;
- distance measurement;
- Possibly an arbitrary decan or star catalogue number

Since we can map out distance and angular measures I investigated those. Since the story mentions Djedi is 110 years old and Alhena is approximately 110 light years distant and happens to form the house of the moon ie Thoth on that date I investigated it as an interesting prospect.






> So engenbren you just float 4 in there because it
> allows for 280 cubits = to 280 parsecs. One should
> go further out to 280 parsecs in line from that
> image and we might find something!

This thread is quite large and evolving. I’ve dropped this from my latest thinking. There was no obvious reason to mix in parsecs into my thinking.

I just cannot
> see the correlation from myth and a few light year
> measurements to pin a date from the mind of design
> of a pyramid. This is as far as a theory can go
> and its just an assumption to put it bluntly.
> Although very interesting read.
>

There are multiple layers to my analysis :
1. the constellation mapping which I am now quite confident in. As Spiros pointed out this points to a time of year
2. The date mapping - I Am less confident here - I am working through some updates based on more in depth research around the Egyptian calendar which may change the dating and therefore may or may not break the link to Alhena


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>
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The station or house of the moon as the
> moon sets would be in the modern constellation of
> Gemini, specifically on this date, bounded by the
> stars Gamma Geminorum and Mu Geminorum. Mu
> Geminorum sets approximately 1 minute before the
> moon on that date. We know that Khufu is seeking
> the numbers from the
> <reckoning|details|examination|assessment> of the
> station of the moon and that Khufu wants to use
> these numbers in his Horizon (aka Pyramid).

>
> Examining Mu Geminorum, according to Stellarium it
> is 230 light years away which translates to
> approximately 70 parsecs. 70 x 4 =280 the expected
> height of the pyramid. Mu Geminorum also has an
> angle of proper motion of 151.8 degrees. The slope
> on the great pyramid is 51.8 degrees. Gamma
> Geminorum is 109.3 light years away according to
> stellarium and from the stories we know that Djedi
> is 110 years old.
>
>
>
>
> To be honest interpreting mythological stories,
> dreams and metaphors which is symbolic to form a
> universal perception is highly complex. Your sky
> images do not reveal Orion and I wonder if your
> interpretation of the hts3-Goose is on target
> which you say is a possible linkage. Could it be
> your mistaken and this really relates to Orion
> which is close to Taurus?
>

I don’t believe the bull relates to Taurus now I believe it relates to Ursa Major / Meskhetyu. I have avoided trying to incorporate any other correlation theory into my analysis. However, Orion is in the sky at the time I have pinpointed at present.


> Your quote engenbren:
>
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There is a further possible linkage to
> this decan or cluster (ht) in the name of the
> second goose which has been translated as
> hts3-Goose in Nederhof.

>
>
>

I haven’t identified the goose or hts3-goose.
>
>

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