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Edited to add this post is with reference to the post by Thanos5150 here

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Rawlins and Pickering show that Kate Spence had an error in her calculations and according to them the corrected dates:

"This implies dates of 2638 BC for Khufu’s pyramid and 2607 BC for Khafre’s.(Error estimates could be 2–10 years,depending on assumptions regarding the builders’ craftmanship.)"

I decided to investigate whether there was an alignment to my hypothesis on the Westcar Papyrus around 2638 BC ± 10 years and found there was a good match on October 28 2638 BC:

Looking South - in this image, In the centre, we are seeing Argo which Plutarch tells us is in the space where the Egyptians saw the boat of Osiris (which I link to the Westcar tale of Sneferu’s rowing trip). Immediately above Argo is Hydra (the snake), in which space, the Egyptians saw a large Crocodile according to Lull and Belmonte. Above this Crocodile is Leo who is the Lion in the story of Djedi the Magician. In the space where Leo Minor is, Lull & Belmonte tell us the Egyptians saw a smaller crocodile. The story of Ubaoner tells of the lectornpriest who fashions a small wax crocodile which turns into a larger full size crocodile. To the left of Argo is the Southern Cross (Twins and Two Ladies) which I have identified to the rowers in Sneferus rowing trip. To the right of Argo is Taurus, the bull that is decapitated in the story of Djedi.


Looking North - Spica which is associated with the Beautiful Child by Lull & Belmonte perhaps represents the children of Ruddjedet to be born, Meskhetyu or the Bulls Foreleg appears above Thuban. Bootes appears in the east which is where Lull and Belmonte see Reret/Isis-Djamet the hippopotamus. The fish pendant in Sneferus rowing trip is reminiscent of the description that Roca and Mellado say is a reference to Thoeris the female hippopotamus also linked to Reret.


The planets rising near the sun and under spica provide a good reference to the possible children of Ruddjedet. Perhaps making this date an even better candidate than the one I had previously identified.
. Reviewing the children that are born to Ruddjedet, the papyrus tells us their names
'May you not be powerful in her womb, in this name of yours of Userref!'
'May you not kick in her womb, in this name of yours of Sahure!’
'May you not stay dark in her womb, in this name of yours of Keku!'
Per my paper Useref I think is Osiris in the form of Af which per Budge represents the rising sun.
Sahure means close to Re, perhaps indicating a birth (rising) of mercury the closest planet to the sun.
Keku is a god of darkness per Budge but specifically the darkness before first light of the day. Could this be referencing the morning star Venus?

These are all rising under Spica “the beautiful child”



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-20 02:34 by engbren.

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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 62 engbren 17-Jan-20 09:34
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