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I switched from using Stellarium to using Starry Night Sky Safari on iPad, which is supposed to be accurate to 10,000 BC according to the developers. An interesting piece came up when I viewed my proposed date for the story of Djedi - a constellation that looked like a ship. Ultimately, the constituent parts of the former constellation of Argo Navis, which according to Wikipedia is thought the Greeks knew of from the Egyptians who knew it as the boat of Osiris.

I wondered where the boat was in relation to Piscis Austrinus and it is just below, to the side, below the horizon in what the Egyptians would have called the Duat. This raises the possibility that the stories of Djadjaemankh and of Djedi are linked and the folding of the lake to find the fish pendant is indicating an understanding of the constellations in the sky and below the horizon and fits in with the variable hours of the night.

Immediately above the boat is the constellation hydra which according to Table 6.1 in Lull and Belmonte, was considered the constellation htp rdwy our “Lying on his feet” which is a crocodile. The story before Djadjaemankh and the story after Djedi feature crocodiles that takes a villager.





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Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 4168 engbren 25-Jul-19 13:03
Re: Unlocking the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 317 cladking 25-Jul-19 14:04
Re: Unlocking the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 226 engbren 28-Jul-19 08:05
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Re: Unlocking the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 185 engbren 01-Aug-19 13:52
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Re: Unlocking the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 212 engbren 28-Jul-19 12:28
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 225 GramPong 02-Aug-19 14:33
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 204 engbren 03-Aug-19 05:33
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 182 GramPong 03-Aug-19 13:41
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 172 engbren 04-Aug-19 04:41
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 188 GramPong 04-Aug-19 12:30
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 184 engbren 04-Aug-19 23:01
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 178 GramPong 05-Aug-19 07:49
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 215 engbren 05-Aug-19 10:15
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 190 engbren 07-Aug-19 13:16
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The plot & motive 182 hendrik dirker 13-Aug-19 10:56
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Re: The plot & motive 190 hendrik dirker 13-Aug-19 14:04
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus story of the Wonder of Djadjaemankh 166 engbren 12-Aug-19 13:17
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 172 engbren 15-Aug-19 12:20
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 180 engbren 19-Aug-19 11:50
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 165 engbren 22-Aug-19 09:18
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 177 Spiros 23-Aug-19 14:56
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 153 engbren 23-Aug-19 23:41
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 162 Spiros 24-Aug-19 06:16
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 173 engbren 24-Aug-19 10:52
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 165 Spiros 26-Aug-19 09:28
Egyptian seasons in the Phaistos disk 164 Spiros 26-Aug-19 09:55
Is Sopdet Involved? 134 engbren 13-Sep-19 11:45
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Re: Is Sopdet Involved? 113 Glass Jigsaw 28-Sep-19 17:54
Re: Is Sopdet Involved? 134 engbren 29-Sep-19 09:08
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 185 engbren 27-Aug-19 08:07
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 159 Spiros 29-Aug-19 05:56
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 150 engbren 28-Aug-19 13:57
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 177 Spiros 31-Aug-19 19:21
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 138 engbren 04-Sep-19 13:49
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 132 engbren 07-Sep-19 11:35
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 107 engbren 27-Oct-19 12:21
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 112 Glass Jigsaw 30-Oct-19 13:00
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 106 Spiros 31-Oct-19 15:19
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 106 Glass Jigsaw 31-Oct-19 16:16
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 136 drew 05-Sep-19 04:06
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 135 Spiros 05-Sep-19 06:31
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 142 engbren 05-Sep-19 09:26
Re: 1/14 of Osiris 133 drew 06-Sep-19 00:11
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 123 Spiros 07-Sep-19 05:03
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 125 engbren 06-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 132 drew 06-Sep-19 01:47
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 134 engbren 06-Sep-19 07:45
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 129 drew 06-Sep-19 08:14
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 132 engbren 06-Sep-19 08:39
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 145 engbren 06-Sep-19 09:02
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 146 Spiros 09-Sep-19 15:40
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 159 Glass Jigsaw 09-Sep-19 20:13
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 127 engbren 11-Sep-19 13:14
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 135 drew 13-Sep-19 04:04
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 137 drew 13-Sep-19 10:46
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 130 Glass Jigsaw 13-Sep-19 11:21
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 121 Glass Jigsaw 24-Sep-19 22:26
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 136 Glass Jigsaw 25-Sep-19 15:15
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Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 135 drew 25-Sep-19 00:49
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 128 Glass Jigsaw 25-Sep-19 11:34
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 116 Glass Jigsaw 25-Sep-19 12:29
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 112 engbren 22-Oct-19 11:07
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 123 Glass Jigsaw 22-Oct-19 14:18
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 103 engbren 25-Oct-19 11:06
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 100 drew 23-Oct-19 23:51
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 100 Glass Jigsaw 24-Oct-19 00:20
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 113 engbren 25-Oct-19 05:57
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 99 engbren 28-Oct-19 20:48
Re: The Age of Pisces or Aquarius? 97 Glass Jigsaw 28-Oct-19 23:23
Astrological signs with human and creature idioms.... 105 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 00:15
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 164 Glass Jigsaw 07-Sep-19 12:03
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 182 cladking 07-Sep-19 14:07
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 95 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 14:20
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Khnum Khufu 149 engbren 08-Sep-19 13:11
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Trimming away unnecessary observations... 167 drew 09-Sep-19 00:30
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 154 drew 11-Sep-19 03:31
The moon and number 41 164 engbren 11-Sep-19 13:19
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 107 engbren 24-Oct-19 09:51
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 125 engbren 25-Oct-19 03:27
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 126 engbren 29-Oct-19 08:55
Some Random Ideas... 120 thinkitover 01-Nov-19 00:19
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 120 engbren 04-Nov-19 12:26
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 82 Glass Jigsaw 27-Nov-19 00:59
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 85 Sirfiroth 27-Nov-19 17:34
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 76 magisterchessmutt 28-Nov-19 00:38
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 78 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-19 01:29
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 96 engbren 02-Dec-19 12:09
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 85 Thanos5150 06-Dec-19 15:52
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 71 engbren 07-Dec-19 09:22
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 68 Spiros 07-Dec-19 21:54
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 67 engbren 12-Dec-19 11:36
Diameter of Alhena vs Coffer volume sphere theory 58 engbren 17-Dec-19 09:51
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Re: Diameter of Alhena vs Coffer volume sphere theory 32 engbren 29-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Diameter of Alhena vs Coffer volume sphere theory 21 engbren 08-Jan-20 20:01
In the Northern Skies 38 engbren 30-Dec-19 02:26
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 34 engbren 09-Jan-20 12:46
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 44 engbren 10-Jan-20 13:30
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 30 Spiros 12-Jan-20 19:32
Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 45 Thanos5150 13-Jan-20 00:03
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 33 engbren 15-Jan-20 11:08
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Re: Unlocking the Westcar Papyrus with Egyptian Astronomy 33 engbren 17-Jan-20 09:34
On the identity of the Children 37 engbren 19-Jan-20 08:15
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Speculation on the offerings 26 engbren 21-Jan-20 12:26
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Not enough here to connect a date! Massive Speculation 42 Sirhope 22-Jan-20 02:14
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The Egyptian Civil Calendar 25 engbren 27-Jan-20 03:05
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