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engbren Wrote:
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> Spiros Wrote:
>
> > Let's set the year to a round 2580 BC. Now
> let's
> > consider the brightest stars of the
> constellations
> > of Lyra and Bootes, Vega and Arcturus
> > respectively. According to Stellarium if we
> take
> > the average Heliacal rising dates of both stars
> we
> > will see it is October 13. This thus seems to
> be
> > the start of Peret. This could be day 1 of month
> 1
> > of Peret season.
> >
> Interesting - looking at the date of October 27 of
> 2580 BC which would therefore be the 15th day of
> Peret, with the Egyptian star lore on (which
> leverages one of Belmonte's earlier paper's so not
> 100% in alignment to Lull and Belmonte), we have
> Sah setting as the sun rises, and the star that
> houses the moon is Gamma Gemorium, part of Gemini
> where I have deduced is the most likely
> constellation for Djedi. I need to analyse a bit
> further.
>
> Regards,
> BC
I just want to point out that Stellarium uses year 0, so what you think is 2580 BC is in reality 2581 BC. This does not affect the validity anyway since I don't think 2580 BC is the intended year.

I also want to correct something I said. The hippopotamus includes parts of Bootes but not Arcturus. This another constellation. The Mooring post. Modifying some name interpretations:

Userref => His Ra is Strong
Sahure => He who is close to Ra
Keku => The dark one

Reusre => powerful Ra

Sahbu => Place of Sah

Rhudjedet => 'growth and stability' or 'foot of duration' or 'increase duration'

now regarding Peret, from wiki:

Quote

Heliacal rising of Sirius at Heliopolis
Year Date
Egyptian Julian
3500 bc III Peret 3 July 16
3000 bc III Shemu 8 July 16
2500 bc III Akhet 8 July 16
2000 bc III Peret 14 July 17
1500 bc III Shemu 19 July 17
1000 bc III Akhet 19 July 17
500 bc III Peret 25 July 18
ad 1 III Shemu 30 July 18
ad 500 IV Akhet 2 July 20

If you use Stellarium and set the observation point at Giza, then at 2500 BC the heliacal rising of Arcturus is at the day I Peret 1. Amazing! We are told that the Egyptians set the calendar based on the brightest star of the Southern sky, but this shows us that they might have set it based on the brightest star of the Northern sky.

EIMI H ZΩH = IHΣOYΣ

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