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Hi Lee,

Thanks for this. I have no idea how this devolved so quickly (or at all!) when I thought my post yesterday morning would have just ended the derail, but I guess I was wrong.

Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Oh, okay. LOL You said I asked an
> authoritarian
> > > question as you respond with snobbishness. It
> > was
> > > a simple question to make sure we were
> > referring
> > > to the same thing, and you respond by being a
> > > jerk. Fine. I doubt you have the capacity to
> > > debate the evidence anyway. So you're just
> > close
> > > minded, apathetic and incapable of separating
> > the
> > > wheat from the chaff. Got it. And here I
> > thought
> > > we were having a reasonable conversation.
> > >
> > > Debate 101 fail on your part. Thanks for
> > playing,
> > > though.
>
> > Now you’re merely lying...
>
> Can you please point out the "lie" in the comments
> above? Kristin's only statement of fact regarding
> what you said was:
>
> "You said I asked an authoritarian
> question..."

>
> Referring to your earlier comment to her:
>
> "A question whose assumptions are
> authoritarian".

>
> I fail to see where it is a lie or dishonest to
> characterize what you said to mean the question
> itself is authoritarian as it is hardly a stretch
> to say the question is authoritarian if it is
> based on authoritarian assumptions.

Yeah, I'm a little confused about the "lie" part. I stated my opinion as I saw it. He doesn't have to agree with it, but in no way did I state an untruth.


> "...you respond with snobbishness."
>
> An opinion, probably shared by others, not a lie.
>
> "It was a simple question to make sure we were
> referring to the same thing..."

>
> A statement of fact as seen by Kristin, you would
> agree it was a "simple question" would you not,
> and gives her reason for asking it which we have
> no reason to believe she is "lying" about that.
>
> "...and you respond by being a jerk."
>
> An opinion, probably shared by others, not a lie.
>
> "I doubt you have the capacity to debate the
> evidence anyway."

>
> An opinion, not a lie.
>
> "So you're just close minded, apathetic and
> incapable of separating the wheat from the
> chaff."

>
> Unless you are claiming she does not actually
> believe this statement but is saying it anyways,
> an opinion, not a lie.
>
> "So you're just close minded, apathetic and
> incapable of separating the wheat from the
> chaff."

>
> Unless you are claiming she does not actually
> believe this statement but is saying it anyways,
> an opinion, not a lie.
>
> "Got it."
>
> Unless you are claiming she does not actually "got
> it", though said sarcastically, a statement of
> fact.
>
> "And here I thought we were having a reasonable
> conversation."

>
> Unless you are claiming she does not actually
> believe this statement but is saying it anyways,
> an opinion, not a lie.
>
> "Debate 101 fail on your part."
>
> An opinion, not a lie.
>
> "Thanks for playing, though."
>
> Sarcasm understood to not be a "genuine"
> statement.
>
> Where is the lie Martin?
>
> > (and how quickly we’ve
> > reached this point).
>
> Because Kristin is a "liar"? Can you give examples
> that show this pattern of behavior in her where at
> some point in an argument or debate she reaches a
> point of needed to "lie"?
>
> > So much for your principles.
>
> Which are diminished in your view, perhaps a "lie"
> themselves, because you claim she is not only
> lying but implying is someone who lies.
>
> > So much for your ability.
>
> Did Kristin make claims about her own ability?
>
> > Your failure to offer any reason at all why I
> > should answer your questions is noted.
>
> Unless you feel her question is improper in some
> way or unclear requiring an explanation as to why
> she is asking it, in polite society it is
> understood being asked a question is reason enough
> to answer it or at least acknowledge you have been
> addressed. You met her question with asking the
> question why should you answer her to specifically
> elicit no response knowing full well it is a
> question to be ignored. And when it is not
> answered you claim impropriety on her part because
> she did not answer it which in turn alleviates
> your responsibility to answer her earlier question
> because if she will not answer yours than why
> should you.
>
> > It remains
> > as it was in the first place entirely at my
> > discretion if I do so or not.
>
> True, but how is it a deception of some sort on
> Kristin's part to note you have not answered her
> questions when you yourself are admitting you did
> not?

Yeah, I don't get this whole "lying" thing.

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