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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Corpuscles Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > I am sure you are capable of googling
> "sundogs"!
> >
> > I am not an expert of this strange medieval
> event
> > but apart from the claimed movement and the
> smoke
> > and crashing (which no doubt excites the UFO
> > believers)
>
> I would think an account of such an event would
> "excite" anyone regardless of whether they were
> "UFO's" or not.

I AM EXCITED!
>
> > the description was a "sun" and
> > crescent shaped "suns" likely 22degrees either
> > side of the sun.
>
> You sure about that:
>
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In between these globes there were visible
> a few blood-red crosses, between which there were
> blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and
> in the front malleable like the rods of
> reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them
> two big rods, one on the right, the other to the
> left, and within the small and big rods there were
> three, also four and more globes. These all
> started to fight among themselves, so that the
> globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to
> the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the
> globes standing outside the sun, in the small and
> large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes
> flew back and forth among themselves and fought
> vehemently with each other for over an hour. And
> when the conflict in and again out of the sun was
> most intense, they became fatigued to such an
> extent that they all, as said above, fell from the
> sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned'
> and they then wasted away on the earth with
> immense smoke. After all this there was something
> like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted;
> the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed
> west.


> Does this look like just "the description was a
> "sun" and crescent shaped "suns" likely 22 degrees
> either side of the sun" to you:
>
>
> Quoting the synopsis from Wikipedia:
> [snip Wiki synopsis]


> A little different than ""the description was a
> "sun" and crescent shaped "suns" likely 22 degrees
> either side of the sun".

Not really from the original woodcarving (made by a non witness according to eye witness accounts) you quoted:

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In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter...

Nearly exactly description of a Sundog condition. Indicative of very moist very cold high cloud containing ice crystals . This likely to create considerable static electricity in the atmosphere which can charge lower atmosphere. Even to the extent that some people see discharges from their fingertips an example

This could easily give rise to the phenomena known as ball lightning Watch magic battling balls as again described:

"In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west."

Then there are the "rods of reed grass" resembling very much like St Elmos Fire Please watch! Depending on gases in the atmosphere some will glow red.

Of course there are many accounts of ball lightning exploding on the ground causing destruction and fire (smoke)


>
> > It is a now known observed NATURAL phenomena
> which
> > closely agrees to the previous medieval
> > unscientific description.
>
> A photo taken from Johnson's blog:
>
>
> ...
>
> So no, not only does this natural phenomenon not
> "closely agrees to the previous medieval
> unscientific description" it does not even compare
> to previous "medieval unscientific description"
> and depictions of an actual sun dog made barely
> 60yrs before.

Really?
>
> > It comes down to what is most likely or
> plausible
> > Versus fantasy of the existence of less
> evidenced
> > and unstudied, not understood imaginary
> > supernatural things
>
> You are ignorant of which you speak.
>
> List of investigations of UFOs by governments
>
> Most
> recently:Advance
> d Aerospace Threat Identification Program


In these days of top secret industrial military complexes I think it would be mandatory defence response to react to any Unidentified Flying Object



However I am with you on this one.;-)
This is most likely an medieval account of a alien spaceship war almost certainly between intergalactic confederation of pirates who were attempting a robbery of all the cargo of gold headed back to Planet X. Z Sitchin studied (amateur)such and after he found his own superior interpretation of cuneiform. the ancient texts he read confirmed to many that such has been happening many many millennia , (several Millenia BCE).

Don't be fooled Darth Vader had nothing to do with it! This because he wasn't even born yet in 1561, more likely that evil emperor bloke , he lived as a dark jedi for thousands of years and would have only been in his prime in 1561! So it could been him!?

You know it makes sense!? ;-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24-Jul-19 03:56 by Corpuscles.

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