Mysteries :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For serious discussion of the controversies, approaches and enigmas surrounding the origins and development of the human species and of human civilization. (NB: for more ‘out there’ posts we point you in the direction of the ‘Paranormal & Supernatural’ Message Board). 
Welcome! Log InRegister
Wow, you bring up a loaded topic. I may have a foot in both camps, but not completely in either. I have a chemistry degree but now work in medical IT and so I am trained to use that type of logic and problem solving. But I often find myself irate with mainstream "skeptics" because I think they misuse logic towards their own ends. But then again I also get frustrated with people at the other end of the spectrum who dismiss logic entirely.

There is a reasonable principle which states that that which is not true is false. However, I feel that skeptics misrepresent this principle as that which is not _proven_ true is necessarily false, and I find that disagreeable.

In comp sci there is a third state of logic which is "unknown." But I tend to believe that there are at least five states of logic:

Provably True
Unproven yet supported by evidence
Unknown and unprovable
Unproven yet negatively unsupported by evidence
Provably False

Your "mainstream" folks may not accept that the middle three states of logic that I propose even exist. Alternatively, I think that "alternative" thinkers spend most of their time there. Edit:Not implying that is a bad thing.

--Andy



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12-Jul-19 11:47 by AndyBlackard.

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1745 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 244 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 267 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 196 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 213 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 196 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 186 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 176 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 166 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 166 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 154 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 136 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 140 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 136 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 177 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 152 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 165 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 166 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 172 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 174 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 148 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 135 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 132 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 245 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 151 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 128 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 151 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 164 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 164 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 171 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 161 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 149 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 172 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 184 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 158 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 154 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 143 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 153 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 162 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 146 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 149 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 147 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 149 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 151 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 145 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 147 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 139 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 166 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 183 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 150 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 148 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 176 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 180 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 161 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 164 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 143 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 162 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 144 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 156 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 144 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 152 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 173 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 161 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 177 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 298 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 233 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.