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Hi Lee

I have had for many days a nagging suspicion that I might be one of the "ect ect" [sic] you refer to albeit I would likely be way down the list well below the 'totally insignificant demarcation zone', of any such list , but nevertheless therefore feel a little (strangely) obliged to make effort to comment.

However, firstly, how do I know that in responding /replying to you that I am not committing and exacerbating the undesirable error of potentially 'beating up' on low lying fringe fruit?
Is there a list of such? If so, could you post it in FULL.

Unfortunately, you will be disappointed to read I am not a fan of either; Kuhn ; or Celebrity TV science presenter Prof Brian Cox. These apparently are of "significant consequence" worthy of elaborate reply and attention. Perhaps that is just my good fortune?

I think your OP presumes far too much! The presumption that only fringe alternate theorists are attracted to GHMB and or that any original such notions that attracted such to GHMB are still held, passionately and clearly enough, to be worthy of current extensive presentation?

The ones who get 'beat up' are specifically those who constantly "beat up", their own unique beat up.

They are the dogmatic, self promotional, self important, self delusional, often specifically unique sensationalistic fantasisers lacking in complete knowledge of their subject or exhibit wilful ignorance with intention to deceive. Further their shear amount of persistent repetition finally after considerable effort to ignore, snap the "no reply - tolerance - circuit breaker" TM
(I assume you have one of these clever devices they are critical for the early detection of both "low lying fringe alt fruit-loops" and also highlight items of "significant consequence". Sadly, I cant source one here down under, and Amazon tells they are "not available" to me.

After several reads and inclusive of later development/comment I think I get what you are trying to suggest.

You go to extensive extraordinary effort to create interesting , informative, thought provoking threads which do not seem to attract the level of attention and particularly contribution, you believe they deserve and concurrently are fascinated that lesser loonies grab attention?

I think you ought be personally internally encouraged in that such contributions are not so mundane nor repetitive to be subject to hardly any ridicule by the rank and file wider audience, or subject to contra argument BUT RATHER -IS WIDELY RESPECTED AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED by most (including the fringe fruit-loops)!!!
There is respect for the time, and research effort, it takes that others may not have to give nor required motivation.

Yes, it would be good if more did likewise, but that cannot be demanded or mandated, especially from largely anonymous strangers merely wanting to chat learn or uncommitted hobby passtime. (sympathy & personal apology offered).

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Thanos5150 to eyeofhorus33
I appreciate that, but the point is not "me", however, not in the least, but rather why do credible subjects of consequence garner so little participation whereas fringe nonsense has such a hold not just on believers, but those who argue against them?

Surely, that is not really a question (of deep fascination or mystery) but rather a comment/statement?

Why does a 15sec video grab of a massive car accident at Indy 500 or one of the GrandPrixs get prime time news play around the world?
It is entertainment to mass audience, it is sensational, it provokes emotion... ect ect [sic]

If as merely a poor example - I was writing a well researched book on Mesopotamian influence on pre Dynastic Egypt AND I WANTED maximum reaction I would include some item that appealed toa wide disperse spectrum of people with emotional involvement in such and make it deliberately controversial. EG something like the Biblical story of the patriarch Abram Abraham was a mythical allegory of a long standing vage memory of the establishment of the AE dynasties by a Mesopotamian king.

They would be screaming the house down!!!
The religious nutters would issue one of those 'kill on site' orders or how a PC conference about the horrible disgraceful misrepresentation of "the truth"
Atheist's would pile in to say there WAS NOT ANY SUCH individual

ect ect [sic]

Cheers
Steve

Footnote: Not to be a pRi ck but the correct abbreviation for et cetera is "etc"
Unfamiliar with American spelling of "reffering" , but tip , I doubt it has two "f"s
SEE -your stuff is (when time permits) read in absolute fine detail! But many of us are not worthy of adding or subtracting from it, other than a few hopefully helpful tips?

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1746 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 245 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 267 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 196 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 214 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 187 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 200 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 177 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 156 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 167 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 167 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 171 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 145 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 154 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 140 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 140 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 136 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 165 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 166 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 172 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 140 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 148 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 147 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 136 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 132 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 246 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 160 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 151 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 129 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 152 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 164 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 164 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 171 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 161 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 149 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 172 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 184 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 158 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 159 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 155 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 144 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 153 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 162 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 146 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 149 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 148 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 156 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 150 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 138 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 151 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 146 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 147 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 139 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 166 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 184 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 151 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 148 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 177 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 181 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 161 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 164 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 143 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 163 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 144 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 156 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 145 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 152 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 173 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 147 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 298 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 233 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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