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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> > I took world mythology classes in college and
> was
> > fascinated by the worlds these stories
> inhabited.
> > I was, and still am, convinced that in many
> myths
> > and legends there is a nugget of truth, some
> event
> > that actually happened to prompt those stories.
>
> Are there any in particular you are holding out
> hope for or have a special interest in?

Oh, where to start? LOL

I do believe that some disaster struck Earth around the end of the Ice Age, one that had far-reaching effects on our ancestors. A comet, a gamma ray burst, something that wiped out civilization, upset the climate and even topography, and spurred massive migrations as people did the best they could to survive. I think that many of the myths that have come down to us are truly ancient--but unfortunately we have no way to date or cross-date them as yet.

As the dates for civilization get pushed back further and further, my hope is that they someday turn up an Ice Age civilization from remote antiquity. IMO the roots of what we now consider the beginnings of civilization began there, long before archaeologists and anthropologists are willing to admit or even consider.

The end of the Ice Age was devastating to cultures around the world. If we're going to find evidence of their existence, we need to do some serious looking in the places that were above water 20,000 or more years ago. We also need to dispense with the fairy tale that the Americas were unpopulated prior to 13,000 or so years ago. (Clovis First is alive and well, unfortunately.) There is plenty of evidence that that's simply not true. I live 30 miles from Meadowcroft and I know it isn't. And if people were in this part of the world that early, there is a two pronged dilemma: at the rate archaeologists claim people move, there have been people in the Americas for many tens of thousands of years and/or they didn't ONLY walk across the Bering Strait. There were other points of entry and other means of travel.

Along with that, our ancestors were not dumb cavemen. It's past time we gave them credit for their intelligence and curiosity.

I have a difficult time believing that AMH didn't advance at all culturally for over 100,000 years. It defies reason. We're nothing if not curious and inventive. The ice sheets would limit their incursion into certain regions, but some places were quite pleasant and they could actually live near the glaciers comfortably. With so much water tied up in the ice sheets and so much more land exposed, there would have been places they could have settled year round.

A lot of our mythology and folklore reflects real events. Just because we don't have the proper context in which to place them doesn't mean they didn't happen or are just fanciful superstition.


> Same here. Graham took a turn I have no interest
> in.

Yep. I have always been fascinated by plants, but drug filled woo doesn't interest me.

I jumped back in with Magicians of the Gods,
> but found it "lackluster" to put it politely. It
> is a strange thing, but the alternative genre of
> writers are fading away with time and no new
> generation has stepped up to take their place.
> Instead it seems the void has been filled by
> fringe YouTubers. We are getting old my friend.

Either that or some of what was considered fringe 20 years ago is moving into the mainstream. Other than the idea that Antarctica was once the scene of a great civilization, I always thought GH's ideas weren't all that far from mainstream. At the time I thought he was asking questions that the archaeologists should have been asking. The hypothesis that there was an Ice Age civilization at least on par with Egypt and Mesopotamia is a reasonable one and doesn't deserve the scorn that's been heaped upon it.

I still haven't read Magicians but I do want to read America Before.

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like earth. ~ Margaret Atwood

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Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 1745 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 02:13
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 288 cladking 05-Jul-19 03:29
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 244 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 04:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 267 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 05:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 229 engbren 05-Jul-19 12:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 196 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 178 engbren 08-Jul-19 13:54
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 213 Thanos5150 05-Jul-19 14:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 cladking 05-Jul-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 197 Susan Doris 05-Jul-19 17:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 186 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 05:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 05:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Aine 05-Jul-19 18:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 176 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 167 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:23
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 166 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 Aine 06-Jul-19 20:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 Aine 07-Jul-19 00:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 191 cladking 07-Jul-19 00:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 154 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 140 Aine 10-Jul-19 01:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 136 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:00
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 177 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 09:52
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 06-Jul-19 15:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Aine 06-Jul-19 16:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:05
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 Susan Doris 06-Jul-19 17:25
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 cladking 06-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-19 20:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 15:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 152 Susan Doris 07-Jul-19 16:30
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 165 Susan Doris 08-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 drrayeye 06-Jul-19 18:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 168 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 16:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 170 cladking 07-Jul-19 16:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 Aine 07-Jul-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 Thanos5150 07-Jul-19 23:42
The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 166 drrayeye 08-Jul-19 22:26
Re: The advantage of scholarly "tricks" in formulating opinions 172 Eddie Larry 09-Jul-19 00:55
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 cladking 07-Jul-19 17:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 174 Thanos5150 08-Jul-19 01:35
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 162 eyeofhorus33 08-Jul-19 21:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 15:56
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 153 Susan Doris 09-Jul-19 16:45
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 139 Thanos5150 10-Jul-19 00:46
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 eyeofhorus33 09-Jul-19 20:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 Thanos5150 09-Jul-19 23:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 engbren 10-Jul-19 08:24
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 148 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:14
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 engbren 02-Aug-19 09:27
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Thanos5150 02-Aug-19 14:36
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 135 engbren 02-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 182 Thanos5150 03-Aug-19 14:22
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 132 Aine 09-Jul-19 22:07
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 245 Jgeeta 08-Jul-19 02:43
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:28
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 169 KsFisher 08-Jul-19 19:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 159 cladking 09-Jul-19 13:08
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 151 KsFisher 09-Jul-19 19:49
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 128 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:06
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:12
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 175 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 04:16
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 211 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 05:15
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 151 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 06:21
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 199 Susan Doris 10-Jul-19 10:21
Gossip 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:46
Troll 164 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 18:54
Re: Troll 164 Sirfiroth 10-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Troll 171 eyeofhorus33 10-Jul-19 19:08
An explanation in "Cowboy" 161 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:42
Other times, I poke the dog with a stick. 149 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 23:15
Not at all, Ray 172 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 07:19
Matt's rules 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 07:52
Ray gets schooled 184 eyeofhorus33 11-Jul-19 11:31
Ho Ho Ho 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 14:12
Re: Ray gets schooled 158 Martin Stower 11-Jul-19 21:10
Fighting "trolls" in Texas 155 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:09
Re: Gossip 143 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:15
The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 153 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 07:07
Don't worry, Pancho 162 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 08:04
Grovel. Grovel. 146 Barbelo 11-Jul-19 10:54
Re: The Grand Poo-Bah of Pomposity 149 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 11:35
Getting an "innocent" to take the bait 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 20:42
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 158 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:09
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 147 Susan Doris 11-Jul-19 05:19
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 155 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 149 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 07:04
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 137 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 15:37
Unfortunately 151 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 17:52
Re: Unfortunately 145 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 00:09
Level 3 147 drrayeye 12-Jul-19 00:48
Re: Unfortunately 139 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 15:06
Re: Unfortunately 166 cladking 12-Jul-19 17:10
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 157 kborissov 12-Jul-19 02:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 Corpuscles 12-Jul-19 02:59
Australian jargon 164 drrayeye 10-Jul-19 17:39
Re: Australian jargon 183 Martin Stower 10-Jul-19 18:16
Re: Australian jargon 152 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:20
Re: Australian jargon 150 Corpuscles 10-Jul-19 23:58
Thanks 157 drrayeye 11-Jul-19 00:12
Re: Australian jargon 148 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:00
Re: Australian jargon 176 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 01:47
Re: Australian jargon 180 cladking 11-Jul-19 02:44
Re: Australian jargon 161 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 03:58
Re: Australian jargon 164 Thanos5150 11-Jul-19 04:02
Re: Australian jargon 143 cladking 11-Jul-19 04:22
Re: Australian jargon 162 Corpuscles 11-Jul-19 04:50
Re: Australian jargon 144 cladking 11-Jul-19 14:31
Re: Australian jargon 156 Warwick 11-Jul-19 15:31
Re: Australian jargon 145 cladking 11-Jul-19 15:57
um 152 Warwick 11-Jul-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 173 cladking 11-Jul-19 01:11
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 163 cloister 11-Jul-19 13:32
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 146 Thanos5150 12-Jul-19 14:50
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 161 cloister 12-Jul-19 19:03
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 208 Thanos5150 13-Jul-19 01:33
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 179 AndyBlackard 11-Jul-19 19:40
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 144 Eddie Larry 11-Jul-19 19:47
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 164 Warwick 11-Jul-19 19:58
Re: Mainstream and Alternative Ideas 177 Dejus 12-Jul-19 11:20
the Dinosaur destroyer 298 hendrik dirker 12-Jul-19 15:02
Re: the Dinosaur destroyer 233 Robert Jameson 14-Sep-19 13:35


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