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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> That is not "HRaven", Stower. . . .

No, Creighton, it isn’t. Not exactly. Vyse made a stab at suggesting the “HR” ligature which was painted on the beam in Campbell’s Chamber:



So all of your guff about Vyse’s “H” is inapplicable.

Your plonking pronouncements on writing which once you admitted is “almost impossible to read” are laughable.

> Your 'book' is bust, Stower and so is your entire
> argument.

So you keep saying, on no serious basis.

> And a few further points before I depart this
> discussion, Mr Stower. It rather seems to me that
> your long-awaited tome is still hot on the press
> and already is in need of a serious re-write.

Creighton,

You are ill-placed to comment. On any serious criterion, HOAX is in need of pulping. At least the pulp might be of some use.

> 1) My views with regards to the two cartouches of
> Khufu are no longer how you have presented them in
> your book.

Not our job to second-guess your every change of mind. Views so fickle were obviously ill-founded in the first place.

Where we mention you at all, we cite sources. The views addressed are those documented.

> 2) Roth's paper . . .

Which you are too stupid to follow.

> 3) Daoud digging secret tunnels, finding hidden
> caches of paired quarry marks!! Whose febrile
> imagination did this turd of a strawman come from?

Alford’s first, then your poor imitation. That combined with serious considerations on the requirements a “secret cache” would need to meet to be fit for purpose, discussed at length in the sections following. Not got to them yet? Sounds like you’re just skimming.

By the way, what happened to your idea that Humphries Brewer disguised himself as an Egyptian quarryman? We took that as inspiration also. How we laughed!

> I have said in a number of places that the "secret
> cache" could have been found painted onto some
> blocks in the rubble around the pyramid. . . .

Your saying it makes it so? I don’t think so. Ostraca and papyri are considered as possibilities and rejected for reasons given, which you’d know if you’d read the book and not just skimmed it with hostile intent.

> So - looks like you've a lot to be getting on with
> now in updating your 'book'. Get to it. Chop
> chop.
>
> SC

Now, here’s a funny thing:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=great+pyramid+hoax

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=great+pyramid+hoax

https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=great+pyramid+hoax

M.

Edited 2019-02-28 to add a missing apostrophe.

Edited 2019-02-28 to change the subject.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 28-Feb-19 15:59 by Martin Stower.

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The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 2117 Thanos5150 27-Feb-19 05:44
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 443 Morten 27-Feb-19 06:22
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 359 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 11:52
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 352 Morten 27-Feb-19 12:31
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 305 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 14:06
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 327 Morten 27-Feb-19 14:26
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 306 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 16:35
Re: The Strange Journey of Humphries Brewer (2 Book Series) 321 Morten 27-Feb-19 16:44
Ignore list?? 329 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 16:48
I'm so proud 353 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 11:21
Re: I'm so proud 302 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 11:49
Re: I'm so proud 275 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 12:20
Re: I'm so proud 275 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 12:48
Re: I'm so proud 279 LonelyAngel 27-Feb-19 13:11
Re: I'm so proud 297 Corpuscles 27-Feb-19 22:51
Why Can't Martin Stower Read Vyse Journal? 478 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-19 18:21
Why Can’t Creighton Tell the Truth? 473 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 20:07
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 241 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Feb-19 20:28
Why Truncate? 330 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 21:38
Re: Why Truncate? 257 Corpuscles 27-Feb-19 23:14
Re: Why Truncate? 271 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 23:26
Re: Why Truncate? 305 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 15:13
Walter Allen's Logbook 239 Merrell 05-Mar-19 23:47
Re: Why Truncate? 250 Corpuscles 06-Mar-19 00:05
Re: Why Truncate? 244 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 02:00
Why Can’t Creighton Read Vyse’s Journal? 380 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 23:00
Re: Why Can't Martin Stower Read Vyse Journal? 256 R Avry Wilson 28-Feb-19 02:01
Re: Why Can't Martin Stower Read Vyse Journal? 257 LonelyAngel 28-Feb-19 09:37
Re: Why Can't Martin Stower Read Vyse Journal? 283 Merrell 28-Feb-19 14:18
Re: Why Can't Martin Stower Read Vyse Journal? 265 LonelyAngel 28-Feb-19 14:54
The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 342 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-19 22:49
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 279 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 23:19
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 276 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-19 23:23
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 300 Martin Stower 27-Feb-19 23:41
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 291 Morten 28-Feb-19 00:00
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 251 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 00:07
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 261 Corpuscles 28-Feb-19 00:43
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 255 Corpuscles 28-Feb-19 01:03
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 237 Corpuscles 28-Feb-19 01:14
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 256 Warwick 28-Feb-19 06:08
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 247 LonelyAngel 28-Feb-19 09:06
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 230 Warwick 28-Feb-19 18:08
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 235 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 10:22
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 249 LonelyAngel 28-Feb-19 11:41
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 221 Warwick 28-Feb-19 18:01
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 241 Merrell 28-Feb-19 10:51
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 214 Warwick 28-Feb-19 18:18
Re: The Silent Quarry Marks in Campbell's Chamber 242 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 10:08
Creighton comes a cropper! 268 eyeofhorus33 28-Feb-19 17:48
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 240 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Feb-19 23:30
We Have Seen It Already 281 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 00:48
Re: We Have Seen It Already 284 Martin Stower 02-Mar-19 10:49
Re: We Have Seen It Already 230 Warwick 02-Mar-19 15:38
Checkmate! 410 Scott Creighton 28-Feb-19 10:31
Re: Checkmate! 297 Scott Creighton 28-Feb-19 11:13
Adjudication 383 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 12:06
Re: Checkmate! 289 R Avry Wilson 28-Feb-19 21:22
Re: Checkmate! 314 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 08:34
Creighton’s First Sight of a Transcript 482 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 11:33
Re: Creighton’s First Sight of a Transcript 267 LonelyAngel 28-Feb-19 11:51
Re: Creighton’s First Sight of a Transcript 254 Warwick 28-Feb-19 18:24
Re: Creighton’s First Sight of a Transcript 242 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 08:58
Re: Creighton’s First Sight of a Transcript 237 Warwick 01-Mar-19 18:19
Re: Checkmate! 272 Merrell 28-Feb-19 12:15
That Subtle Aroma . . . 293 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 12:58
Creighton’s Plonking Pronouncements 302 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 14:36
Vyse’s Execrable Pages 283 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 19:33
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 240 Warwick 28-Feb-19 20:50
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 246 Corpuscles 28-Feb-19 21:37
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 263 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 09:12
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 221 Warwick 01-Mar-19 18:32
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 239 Corpuscles 01-Mar-19 22:23
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 246 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 11:39
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 229 Corpuscles 02-Mar-19 01:01
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 269 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 21:52
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 258 R Avry Wilson 28-Feb-19 22:12
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 279 Martin Stower 28-Feb-19 23:10
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 242 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 09:08
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 258 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 10:10
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 235 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 11:58
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 242 WonderWho 01-Mar-19 12:12
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 266 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 12:36
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 243 Warwick 01-Mar-19 18:46
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 217 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 21:55
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 248 Warwick 01-Mar-19 22:08
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 235 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 12:53
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 215 Warwick 02-Mar-19 15:30
Re: Vyse’s Execrable Pages 258 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 12:33
Another Exhibit 398 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 15:40
Re: Another Exhibit 301 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 16:20
Re: Another Exhibit 298 Merrell 01-Mar-19 18:14
Re: Another Exhibit 271 LonelyAngel 01-Mar-19 21:53
Re: Another Exhibit 248 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 22:17
Re: Another Exhibit 251 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 15:20
Re: Another Exhibit 246 DUNE 02-Mar-19 15:28
Re: Another Exhibit 271 Merrell 02-Mar-19 16:23
Re: Another Exhibit 218 Warwick 02-Mar-19 16:42
Re: Another Exhibit 252 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 16:52
Re: Another Exhibit 220 Warwick 02-Mar-19 17:39
Re: Another Exhibit 237 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 18:06
Re: Another Exhibit 238 Martin Stower 02-Mar-19 18:14
Re: Another Exhibit 229 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 18:49
Re: Another Exhibit 251 Martin Stower 02-Mar-19 19:35
Re: Another Exhibit 247 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 17:08
Re: Another Exhibit 257 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 18:28
Re: Another Exhibit 235 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 21:31
Re: Another Exhibit 240 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 21:46
Re: Another Exhibit 216 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 22:23
grovelling? 219 Warwick 05-Mar-19 18:58
Re: Another Exhibit 218 Corpuscles 05-Mar-19 21:09
Re: Another Exhibit 240 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 21:30
Re: Another Exhibit 244 Corpuscles 05-Mar-19 22:13
Re: Another Exhibit 241 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 22:37
Re: Another Exhibit 230 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 11:08
Re: Another Exhibit 230 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 11:45
Re: Another Exhibit 232 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 13:09
Re: Another Exhibit 231 Warwick 06-Mar-19 17:50
Re: Another Exhibit 209 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 18:09
Re: Another Exhibit 243 Warwick 06-Mar-19 20:36
Re: Another Exhibit 245 Corpuscles 06-Mar-19 21:30
Re: Another Exhibit 219 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 21:44
Re: Another Exhibit 208 sfbey 06-Mar-19 22:53
Re: Another Exhibit 250 Corpuscles 07-Mar-19 01:44
Re: Another Exhibit 231 LonelyAngel 07-Mar-19 11:01
Re: Another Exhibit 249 Corpuscles 07-Mar-19 12:24
Re: Another Exhibit 203 LonelyAngel 07-Mar-19 19:15
Re: Another Exhibit 208 Warwick 07-Mar-19 19:31
Re: Another Exhibit 227 Merrell 06-Mar-19 15:16
Re: Another Exhibit 217 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 15:41
Re: Another Exhibit 209 Warwick 02-Mar-19 18:18
Re: Another Exhibit 227 LonelyAngel 02-Mar-19 18:35
Re: Another Exhibit 214 Warwick 03-Mar-19 17:01
Re: Another Exhibit 234 Martin Stower 02-Mar-19 18:03
Re: Another Exhibit 242 Martin Stower 02-Mar-19 22:21
Re: Another Exhibit 266 Martin Stower 03-Mar-19 10:28
Re: Another Exhibit 237 Corpuscles 02-Mar-19 19:43
Re: Another Exhibit 291 Morten 01-Mar-19 16:55
Re: Another Exhibit 246 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 22:59
Compare and Contrast 250 Martin Stower 01-Mar-19 23:41
Opposing claims 246 Merrell 02-Mar-19 09:52
Re: Compare and Contrast 254 Warwick 02-Mar-19 15:35
Where is Scott Creighton? 288 Martin Stower 03-Mar-19 15:32
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? 228 cloister 03-Mar-19 16:03
talking nonsense about 'hieroglyphics' 249 eyeofhorus33 03-Mar-19 16:03
and FTR 241 Warwick 03-Mar-19 17:04
Re: talking nonsense about 'hieroglyphics' 248 Martin Stower 03-Mar-19 17:35
Re: talking nonsense about 'hieroglyphics' 241 Warwick 03-Mar-19 18:13
Re: talking nonsense about 'hieroglyphics'- with tongue in cheek? 245 Corpuscles 04-Mar-19 06:04
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? 266 Corpuscles 03-Mar-19 22:09
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? 222 Warwick 04-Mar-19 19:11
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? 221 Corpuscles 04-Mar-19 22:48
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 236 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 17:02
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 221 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 18:29
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 219 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 18:46
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 231 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 18:51
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 238 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 19:00
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 232 Warwick 05-Mar-19 19:06
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 211 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 19:45
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 205 Warwick 05-Mar-19 19:53
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 205 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 21:05
claridication please 226 Warwick 05-Mar-19 21:11
Re: claridication please 209 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 21:18
Re: claridication please 212 Warwick 05-Mar-19 21:20
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 228 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 21:25
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 209 Hanslune 05-Mar-19 20:42
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 244 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 19:18
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 219 Corpuscles 05-Mar-19 20:44
Re: Where is Scott Creighton? Here's a guess... 230 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 20:52
Knocking it for 6 219 Warwick 05-Mar-19 18:48
Groundhog Day 226 Warwick 05-Mar-19 19:34
Re: Groundhog Day 239 LonelyAngel 05-Mar-19 20:55
Re: Groundhog Day 243 Warwick 05-Mar-19 21:02
Elsewhere? 237 Hanslune 05-Mar-19 00:52
You were saying? 340 Martin Stower 03-Mar-19 21:32
This is where we came in . . . 252 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 11:51
The only thing worse than a sore loser.. 295 Morten 05-Mar-19 01:56
Re: The only thing worse than a sore loser.. 241 Martin Stower 05-Mar-19 20:55
The Deception Continues 490 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 15:11
Ah... a free advertisement for Abovetopsecret.com? 275 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 15:25
Re: Ah... a free advertisement for Abovetopsecret.com? 244 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 15:57
Re: Ah... a free advertisement for Abovetopsecret.com? 245 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 16:27
A suggestion - a meeting place 232 Hanslune 06-Mar-19 23:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 231 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Mar-19 17:03
??? 254 Warwick 06-Mar-19 18:09
Planet Desperation 253 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 19:18
Re: Planet Desperation 245 Martin Stower 06-Mar-19 20:03
Re: Planet Desperation 213 Warwick 06-Mar-19 20:25
Re: Planet Desperation 237 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 21:16
Re: Planet Desperation 207 Warwick 06-Mar-19 21:49
Re: Planet Desperation 212 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 22:04
Re: Planet Desperation 212 Warwick 07-Mar-19 18:04
Re: Planet Desperation 222 Warwick 07-Mar-19 18:30
A friendly fireplace ... 252 Merrell 06-Mar-19 21:35
Re: A friendly fireplace ... 232 Warwick 06-Mar-19 21:55
Re: A friendly fireplace ... 247 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 21:08
Re: Planet Desperation 261 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 13:37
Re: Planet Desperation 216 LonelyAngel 07-Mar-19 13:39
Re: Planet Desperation 232 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 13:49
Re: Planet Desperation 220 LonelyAngel 07-Mar-19 14:32
Re: Planet Desperation 257 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 15:13
Re: Planet Desperation 238 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 13:49
Re: Planet Desperation 229 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 13:58
Re: Planet Desperation 228 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 14:08
Re: Planet Desperation 227 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 14:23
Re: Planet Desperation 224 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 14:58
Re: Planet Desperation 218 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 15:35
Re: Planet Desperation 230 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 15:38
Re: Planet Desperation 227 Martin Stower 07-Mar-19 15:53
Re: Planet Desperation 236 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-19 16:21
Re: Planet Desperation 235 Corpuscles 07-Mar-19 20:06
Re: Planet Desperation 223 LonelyAngel 07-Mar-19 21:02
Re: Planet Desperation 202 Corpuscles 08-Mar-19 00:58
Re: Planet Desperation 248 LonelyAngel 08-Mar-19 10:37
Re: Planet Desperation 237 Martin Stower 08-Mar-19 12:03
Only a question... 239 LonelyAngel 08-Mar-19 13:55
Re: Only a question... 242 Martin Stower 08-Mar-19 23:07
Re: Only a question... 205 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 00:26
Re: Only a question... 254 Martin Stower 09-Mar-19 00:52
Thoughts of a simple man... 228 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 10:17
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 209 Merrell 09-Mar-19 11:30
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 225 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 12:39
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 224 Merrell 09-Mar-19 12:57
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 200 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 15:32
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 219 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 15:46
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 249 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 16:10
Evidence for posterity 214 Merrell 09-Mar-19 16:16
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 231 Martin Stower 09-Mar-19 21:11
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 217 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 15:53
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 212 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 16:17
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 208 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 16:46
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 225 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 16:58
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 215 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 17:11
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 224 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 18:45
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 250 Martin Stower 09-Mar-19 21:15
Strange Journey? 232 R Avry Wilson 10-Mar-19 10:46
Re: Strange Journey? 212 Corpuscles 10-Mar-19 11:48
Re: Strange Journey? 237 Merrell 10-Mar-19 12:11
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 255 Corpuscles 09-Mar-19 19:59
Re: Thoughts of a simple man... 256 Martin Stower 09-Mar-19 20:51
Re: Planet Desperation 242 Jon Ellison 08-Mar-19 12:25
Re: Planet Desperation 240 Martin Stower 08-Mar-19 12:37
Re: Planet Desperation 225 Jon Ellison 08-Mar-19 12:49
Re: Planet Desperation 300 Corpuscles 08-Mar-19 18:49
Re: Planet Desperation 208 Warwick 08-Mar-19 19:29
Re: Planet Desperation 202 LonelyAngel 09-Mar-19 16:24
Re: Planet Desperation 217 Jon Ellison 08-Mar-19 00:05
Re: Planet Desperation 226 Corpuscles 08-Mar-19 01:06
Re: Planet Desperation 241 Jon Ellison 08-Mar-19 08:23
Re: Planet Desperation 237 Corpuscles 08-Mar-19 08:51
Re: Planet Desperation 246 Jon Ellison 08-Mar-19 09:11
Re: ??? 255 LonelyAngel 06-Mar-19 20:03
Re: ??? 256 Warwick 06-Mar-19 20:18
Mod Note > Topic Closed 270 Dr. Troglodyte 10-Mar-19 14:05


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