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Drew writes “Someone possibly made this observation already, but just in case...

That there are three boat pits beside Khufu's pyramid means that either three different pharaohs made their journeys to the pyramid, or the same pharaoh made three different trips to the pyramid.

If it comes down to the former, then orientation might not have anything to do with why they are as they are except for better use of space in which to create the pits.

If the latter, then orientation would be very important, as it might indicate a direction from which the boats came from/went to, not just figuratively for celestial alignments but literally for terrestrial alignments.

IS there any information about the orientations of the boats found within the pits? Which ends were the bows at...”

Hello Drew,

(First, just a reminder that we're referring here only to the three pits on the eastern side.) I follow the conventional notion that these boats worldwide, perhaps all originally the actual boats belonging to the diseased, were placed in the ground at the time of burial of their owners. There are also examples of Viking ships that were found to contain corpses. And quite a few examples of prehistoric stone ships, where stones were used to form the shape of a ship on the ground, particularly in Scandinavia – symbolic ships.
That leads me to suggest that the three boat pits to the east of the Great Pyramid were dug at three different times to accommodate three different people at their deaths – were they the rulers of the place or revered for other reasons? There is no proof either way and certainly nothing that tells us when. That the boat pits are empty (apart from some objects found in one) only suggests that they were emptied of their contents and/or that the wooden structures of the vessels disintegrated over time. The other possibility is that the boat pits were themselves symbolic of the cosmic journey to the west and that they never contained ships, but, given the presence of Khufu’s boat nearby on the southern facade, it’s not the theory I would go with.

Concerning the orientation of the ships themselves, what a good point! I don’t know if there is any clear indication of the direction of the ship buried in the third pit along the causeway from the form of the hole that is left there today; perhaps someone else can answer that. With its bow facing west towards the pyramid and accompanying the sun struck me as the most logical. The other two had pride of place along the eastern façade of the pyramid so the direction would have been south, always clockwise. An anti-clockwise movement would have been considered unlucky in pagan cultures from what I have read…and yet, as I remember it, Khufu’s boat is now facing east. Was that the direction they found it in? Did the ships face the rising sun rather than accompany it in its journey to the west? It’s a good point. I would be interested to know.

As for the question of celestial or terrestrial alignment, it would also be interesting to have the results of both possibilities. Dr. Trogolodyte has indicated that the third boat pit along the causeway aligns with the sun at its solstice midpoint and that this alignment does not relate to the boat pit but rather to the causeway itself. See his posts here under ‘Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset’. Nobody posting here seems to see that particular boat pit as being of any importance, but I would still like to know exactly where that ship would lead if it sailed backwards (or forwards?)….over land or sky.

Madeleine

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The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 3438 MDaines 22-Feb-19 09:52
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 298 Thanos5150 24-Feb-19 03:06
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 320 Eddie Larry 22-Feb-19 18:39
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 248 Eddie Larry 23-Feb-19 16:24
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 256 Spiros 25-Feb-19 00:41
On the subject of Zechariah Sitchin 287 MDaines 25-Feb-19 14:49
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The Exalted Sumero-Greek EN 223 MDaines 04-Mar-19 18:24
A Big Ask 291 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Feb-19 01:27
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 221 Broker 14-Mar-19 03:25
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 192 SandyJesse 18-Apr-19 04:33
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 132 hendrik dirker 18-Jun-19 06:59
movement of Sun along horizon 103 hendrik dirker 19-Jun-19 16:23
Solstice & the epoch1250 BC 188 hendrik dirker 20-Jun-19 07:02
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 126 MDaines 15-May-19 11:00
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To Easter Island? 140 MDaines 15-May-19 18:10
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What A Shame 123 Barbelo 17-May-19 21:14
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Great Circles and Small Circles 129 Dr. Troglodyte 18-May-19 17:34
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Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 133 Dr. Troglodyte 19-May-19 17:07
Going Round in Circles and then to Easter Island? 149 MDaines 19-May-19 18:10
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Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 149 Horatech 20-May-19 07:33
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Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 167 Dr. Troglodyte 23-May-19 16:05
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Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 152 Horatech 27-May-19 10:30
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Sometimes I go the long way round… 163 drew 17-May-19 00:59


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