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MDaines Wrote:
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> Dr Trogolodyte writes “With specifics to our
> discussion, I updated the image relating the three
> (3) Causeways and their modern Gregorian dates.
> Note that the 18APR date for Khufu’s Causeway
> has been amended to 21APR/22AUG.
>
> Regarding your query: ”Has anyone checked to see
> where that orientation might place the origin of
> the ship….if it arrived across ground from the
> east!”; in a manner of speaking, the funeral
> barge transported the King from the east (land of
> the living) to the west (land of the dead).
>
> It should now be clear that the three (3) Giza
> Pyramid Causeways align with significant solar
> phenomena. Khufu’s Causeway is aligned with the
> midpoint between the June Solstice and the
> March/September Equinox sunrises, as observed from
> the threshold of his Pyramid Temple. A lesser
> known phenomenon of Khufu’s Pyramid is its
> function as a gnomon. For approximately fifteen
> (15) seconds, at sunset on the day of the midpoint
> between the equinoxes and the solstices, a pair of
> triangular shadows appears on either the north or
> south face, heralding the event. Below is the
> occurrence during an April or August event:”
>
>
> I see that now there are two dates for the Great
> Pyramid causeway’s solar events. But, as with
> the first, I still don't see why those dates are
> of such significance unless they correspond to an
> annual flood or some such seasonal event.


Hello MDaines:

Quick points: the ‘modern’ reference dates have no bearing relative to the Ancient Egyptians’ observations; the royal surveyors relied on ‘naked eye’ solar rising and setting sightings along the horizons; the stellar helical rising of Sirius signaled the Nile inundation.


I
> understand that to find significant dates for the
> other two causeways is supposed to reinforce the
> solar theory for the first.


The ‘cross-quarter’ midpoints are emulated in the orientation of the primary Giza Causeways.


It seems that, with
> the Great Pyramid at 14° or 14.2° north of east,
> Khafre is now put at 13.3° or 13.5° south of
> east - so not any precise symmetry(?)


The effects of Earth’s celestial mechanics cause the lengths of days to fluctuate. During the solstices, apparent solar time moves more quickly than when nearing the equinoxes. There are more days between the equinoxes and the June solstice than between the equinoxes and the December solstice, therefore the cross-quarter midpoints minutely differ, anglelary. A Solar/Lunar ephemeris was used to determine the azimuthal angles as observed from the threshold of the Pyramid Temple, and are reflected in the ’greater than’ arithmetic mean of 13.675° “north of east”, and the ’less than’ of this mean “south of east”. These variances are an artifact of the “equation of time”.


- while the
> Menkaure pyramid has a straight east causeway
> (which, in my book, rules it out as participant in
> the solar link theory since that is the most
> logical direction for any causeway to take in the
> circumstance.)
>


The Menkaure Causeway is aligned with ‘solar’ equinoxes, or the midpoint between the solstices.





> Regarding my query, yes, I’m aware of the
> Egyptian lore concerning the cosmic ship. My own
> understanding is that it relates to spiritual
> journeys and to the 'carriage of the sun', the
> 'solar barge' known in other mythologies but that
> doesn’t obviate the journeys of the dead –
> whoever they may be. My question was and still is
> a more practical one based on the obvious visual
> impact of the three easterly boat pits, and the
> conviction that this might be an overlooked
> message built into the architecture of the place.
>
>

Please note, the two (2) Pyramid Temple boats are aligned north and south, “visually” and ‘astronomically’; perhaps representing the solar meridian (as opposed to the southern boats’ east west orientation).


> Spiros has come up with an intriguing result from
> the ancient Greek numeral system: showing that
> ‘one ship’ corresponds to 365. It seems a pity
> that no-one has a reliable diagram: a straight
> line from the coordinates of that causeway boat
> pit that would either confirm or refute the
> possibility that it leads to a significant place,
> one that could be linked to the history of Giza.
> Or perhaps leave us none the wiser!
>
> Madeleine


Given the above evidence, I maintain the supposition that the Causeways originate ‘from the east’, rather than ‘toward the east’.



Dr. Troglodyte


“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?“ - Decimus Junius Juvenalis


“Numero, Pondere et Mensura“


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The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 3559 MDaines 22-Feb-19 09:52
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 516 Thanos5150 22-Feb-19 16:15
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 395 MDaines 23-Feb-19 18:01
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 364 Thanos5150 24-Feb-19 03:06
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 362 Eddie Larry 22-Feb-19 18:39
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 359 cladking 22-Feb-19 20:12
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 358 MDaines 23-Feb-19 07:40
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 314 cladking 23-Feb-19 14:28
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 316 MDaines 23-Feb-19 15:23
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 267 cladking 02-Mar-19 16:31
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 306 Eddie Larry 23-Feb-19 16:24
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 311 Spiros 25-Feb-19 00:41
On the subject of Zechariah Sitchin 358 MDaines 25-Feb-19 14:49
Re: On the subject of Zechariah Sitchin 281 Spiros 04-Mar-19 01:11
The Exalted Sumero-Greek EN 288 MDaines 04-Mar-19 18:24
A Big Ask 347 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Feb-19 01:27
Re: A Big Ask 278 MDaines 26-Feb-19 14:25
Re: A Big Ask 341 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Feb-19 17:14
Re: A Big Ask 255 MDaines 26-Feb-19 19:30
Re: A Big Ask 267 Barbelo 26-Feb-19 20:23
Re: A Big Ask 276 MDaines 27-Feb-19 12:13
Re: A Big Ask 223 Barbelo 27-Feb-19 20:28
Re: A Big Ask 232 MDaines 28-Feb-19 14:05
Re: A Big Ask 254 Barbelo 28-Feb-19 19:59
Re: A Big Ask 284 Thanos5150 01-Mar-19 00:46
Re: A Big Ask 276 Barbelo 01-Mar-19 01:19
Re: A Big Ask 300 Thanos5150 01-Mar-19 05:20
Re: A Weird Ask 283 Barbelo 01-Mar-19 11:13
Re: A Weird Ask 274 Thanos5150 02-Mar-19 05:12
Re: A Weird Ask 265 Barbelo 02-Mar-19 07:06
Re: A Big Ask 249 MDaines 01-Mar-19 18:35
Re: A Big Ask 244 Barbelo 01-Mar-19 21:42
Re: A Big Ask 269 Thanos5150 28-Feb-19 03:33
Re: A Big Ask 246 Thanos5150 28-Feb-19 17:11
Re: A Big Ask 248 MDaines 28-Feb-19 18:08
Heliopolis 261 Barbelo 28-Feb-19 20:18
Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset 319 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Mar-19 23:56
Re: Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset 274 MDaines 10-Mar-19 14:41
Re: Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset 277 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Mar-19 00:17
Re: Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset 243 MDaines 15-Mar-19 07:17
Re: Midpoint Sunrise-Sunset 309 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Mar-19 16:41
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 302 molder 26-Feb-19 21:23
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 285 MDaines 27-Feb-19 12:06
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 293 Broker 14-Mar-19 03:25
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 236 MDaines 17-Mar-19 09:11
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 246 SandyJesse 18-Apr-19 04:33
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 195 MDaines 04-May-19 08:28
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 185 seasmith 05-May-19 01:39
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 191 drew 15-May-19 23:59
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 167 Barbelo 16-May-19 01:45
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 134 Barbelo 18-Jun-19 02:43
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 174 hendrik dirker 18-Jun-19 06:59
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 166 MDaines 15-May-19 11:00
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 181 Horatech 15-May-19 12:10
To Easter Island? 177 MDaines 15-May-19 18:10
Re: To Easter Island? 174 Horatech 16-May-19 06:56
Re: To Easter Island? 166 Horatech 16-May-19 23:48
Re: To Easter Island? 187 Horatech 17-May-19 06:25
Re: To Easter Island? 147 Barbelo 17-May-19 10:53
Re: To Easter Island? 185 MDaines 17-May-19 11:41
What A Shame 162 Barbelo 17-May-19 21:14
Re: What A Shame 183 MDaines 18-May-19 07:57
Great Circles and Small Circles 167 Dr. Troglodyte 18-May-19 17:34
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 196 MDaines 18-May-19 19:09
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 166 Dr. Troglodyte 19-May-19 17:07
Going Round in Circles and then to Easter Island? 202 MDaines 19-May-19 18:10
Re: Going Round in Circles and then to Easter Island? 184 Horatech 25-May-19 10:53
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 187 Horatech 20-May-19 07:33
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 166 Horatech 21-May-19 09:52
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 191 Dr. Troglodyte 21-May-19 18:30
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 215 MDaines 23-May-19 07:51
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 190 Horatech 23-May-19 10:48
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 174 MDaines 23-May-19 17:07
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 191 Horatech 24-May-19 08:12
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 213 Dr. Troglodyte 23-May-19 16:05
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 187 MDaines 23-May-19 17:05
Re: Great Circles, Small Circles, Easter Island 214 Dr. Troglodyte 23-May-19 17:31
Re: Great Circles and Small Circles and Easter Island 220 Horatech 27-May-19 10:30
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Re: To Easter Island? 162 Horatech 18-May-19 09:28
Re: To Easter Island? 148 Eddie Larry 17-May-19 15:11
Re: To Easter Island? 156 Horatech 18-May-19 14:58
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Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 177 MDaines 16-May-19 06:14
Re: The Three Stone Ships from the East - of the Giza Plateau 163 drew 16-May-19 06:42
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Re: ps 167 MDaines 16-May-19 12:10
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Re: ps 186 Barbelo 16-May-19 21:00
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