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Just out of interest, I find one small entry on the Sumerian lexical lists as IB-LA-KI. Can I prove that it refers to Ebla? No, but I can put it forward as a strong theory.

IB is a symbol found in the earliest times pre-3000 BC. My speciality being the so-called primitive pictograms and understanding the importance of IB, I have looked at it many times. It takes the form of an unfurled bird’s wing, but some can be seen as a feather, while one in particular looks like a fish skeleton.
LA is the symbol of balancing, of weighing. The symbol is two adjacent lines – the top two lines of a pyramid, just for the example. The given meanings on ePSD support this translation.

KI is accepted by all to be the suffix indicating place names. That’s the first, most obvious reason why ‘The Instructions of Shuruppak’ doesn’t hold water. The name, translated to a city in the Sumerian King List, is followed by KI in the exact same way but said to be a man…strange and wrong. Anyway, its use here does indicate here that IB-LA is a place name.

IB translates to ‘feather’ in the scene of the weighing of the heart that can be found on line 40 of The Story of Sukurru (ex-Instructions of Shuruppak). It is opposed there to NA, the stone. Remembering that this is a comedy and that it is a heart of stone. I translated it “A knowing hand leaning there will be….Between the stone and the feather, into the Dini he sinks.”

IB-LA as a place name might translate, in poetic mode, to ‘the City of the Floating Feather’.
IB gives the origin of Greek ‘ibis’ and, of course, ties into the ibis-headed figure, who weighs hearts and who is both Thoth and Hermes Trismegistus. Concerning the word ‘ibis’, a strange etymology has been attempted in some quarters where Egyptian Hab, a different sound, is given.

‘Dini’ given as symbol DI, the division and divine judgement, with NI in the transliteration (NA-DI-NI-IB: between the stone and the feather), is an ancient name for a karstic spring but ‘din’ also turns up in modern times as a religion, a ‘system of belief’. I suspect that it is also the origin of ‘din’, the noise, in that it is part of a ritual. Din is just another word from an unknown source, invariably given as ‘from PIE root’. Concerning Hermes, that most important connection will be demonstrated as fully as possible in my book.

So is IB-LA-KI from the Sumerian lexical lists the most ancient version of Ebla? I don’t know. I haven’t looked for the date of that tablet, but it refers to that all-important hanging wing...perhaps the one with the stone in the middle.

Madeleine

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