Hans: How was Goyon and Ginsells builders mark explained away?
SC: Why would they have to be "explained away" by me or by anyone? Unless you know differently, these painted marks observed by G&G have no material bearing on the authenticity of the marks allegedly discovered in the 'Vyse Chambers'. Just because something is "comparable with" something doesn't mean someone didn't make that so. There are fraudsters in the world y'know and there were probably more in Egypt than anywhere else in the world back in the day. Now, if I have this wrong then can you explain exactly how painted marks found in/on one part of the GP actually proves (beyond reasonable doubt) that the painted marks allegedly discovered in another part of the GP must therefore be authentic? What is the logic that just because you find something in two or more different places means they must all be genuine? Explain it to me.
Hans: Scott not everything is about you and your fake hoax.
SC: Em - where exactly did I say it was? I didn't start this thread. I am merely asking questions of posts some others have made which I believe is premissable. I'm sure you don't have a problem with that? Do you?
Hans: Goyon and Ginsells builders marks are evidence - you didn't include them in your writings - why?
SC: Why should I? How do the Grinsell-Goyon observations actually prove the painted marks in the 'Vyse Chambers' are authentic? Explain it to me. It's a simple enough question.
SC: How exactly does that work?
Hans: You write in your book or your correction to it that additional marks were found on the core stones so IN the pyramid as it was once covered much like the ones you were obsessed with. You can also - in full Scott Creighton mode - explain how Vyse faked them too, lol
SC: What correction? What are you talking about? Hans - you seem to be misunderstanding something rather fundamental here. If you go through my posts here on GHMB (and elsewhere), one thing you will notice is that I have always accepted that Khufu/Suphis/Saurid built the pyramid. So why wouldn't we find the Khufu/Suphis/Saurid name on the core stones? But Hans - that STILL does not make the marks Vyse claimed to have discovered authentic. It simply doesn't. For me (and many others) there are simply far too many anomalies, inconsistencies, contradictions in the Vyse narrative; a whole bunch of circumstantial evidence that calls Vyse's claimed discoveries into question. But just because I point to all of this and call Vyse's claimed discovery into question doesn't mean I don't accept the GP was built by Khufu/Suphis/Saurid. Vyse was a known fraudster and there is much to convince me that he also perpetrated a fraud within the GP. But that doesn't mean I hold the view that Khufu/Suphis/Saurid did not build the structure. They're two different and separate issues. Do you understand?
SC: Or are we just assuming that because some of the signs (what was it Hermione said) - ah yes - are "comparable with" each other then they must all be authentic?
Hans: No we ask why you didn't mention them - you should think about the totality of evidence your failed book was about builders marks wasn't it?
SC: Let me ask you again - and it's a simple enough question: explain to me how the Grinsell-Goyon observations actually prove that the painted marks in the 'Vyse Chambers' are authentic? Can you do that?
Hans: So why not mention them all - the total number of them in the pyramid (you didn't now did you also - I think you missed a few inside - did you?)
SC: I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
SC: Really? How so?
Hans: Your the one who was so afraid of their existence that you tried to pretend they didn't exist. Tsk tsk.
SC: For a third time in this post - explain to me how the Grinsell-Goyon observations actually prove that the painted marks in the 'Vyse Chambers' are authentic? Why defer this simple question to others. Hans? You're a bright enough individual and surely such a simple question is not beyond your ability?
Hans: As one of our good friends has found out to his eternal loss is that trying to pretend things don't exist just ends with people ignoring you.
SC: Yes - and if you pay close attention, Hans, you will notice that it is myself - for the very understandable reason that I simply will no longer tolerate personal abuse from anyone - that is doing most of the ignoring. Abuse = Ignore.
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