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MDaines Wrote:
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> The Mercer quote was found on sacredtexts.com.
> I’ll leave you all to the apparently huge task
> of clarifying the groundwork that led to
> transliterating Egyptian hieroglyphs into the
> current understanding of them. If I thought there
> was a straight and simple answer out there
> somewhere, I might ask why there is such certainty
> that the images represented sounds that could be
> linked to an alphabet rather than entire words.
> I’m curious but the earliest Sumerian symbols
> (pre-cuneiform) are my subject, so I’ll leave it
> at that. Note that I don’t refer to them as
> proto-cuneiform because this is the study of a
> pre-existing symbolic (pictographic) language that
> degenerated into abstraction (cuneiform), not the
> usual understanding of it as the beginning of
> intelligent communication - that led to our
> current sad state of bickering, obfuscation and
> misinterpretation.

I believe many if not most of the glyphs began as logograms; pictures which simply represented their own design. the system was ambiguous and complex so the glyphs came to represent sound of language like our alphabet. For this reason Egyptologists miss most of the "big picture". Without understanding the nature of logograms like the "ankh" they are watching an old silent film without the picture. They are taking it apart frame by frame for study but without the fundamentals they don't understand what order to see the frames. They don't understand that perspective and context are fixed by the author in a language that has fixed meaning for every word.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 883 Duketown 30-Nov-18 12:46
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Re: Jean-François Champollion's "Opening Speech…” 236 Duketown 30-Nov-18 16:46
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 264 MDaines 01-Dec-18 08:55
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 220 cladking 01-Dec-18 14:59
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 233 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 15:04
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 211 cladking 01-Dec-18 15:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 217 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 15:15
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Re: Dream the Imparsible Dream. 171 Martin Stower 02-Dec-18 19:51
Re: Dream the Imparsible Dream. 270 cladking 02-Dec-18 20:07
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 241 Manu 01-Dec-18 15:38
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 240 Duketown 01-Dec-18 16:03
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 216 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 16:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 250 Manu 01-Dec-18 16:18
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 245 Duketown 01-Dec-18 16:29
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 205 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 17:05
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 167 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 17:33
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 229 Duketown 01-Dec-18 17:47
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 205 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:44
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 244 Duketown 01-Dec-18 18:58
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 190 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 19:07
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 240 Duketown 01-Dec-18 19:25
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 177 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 19:37
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 235 Duketown 01-Dec-18 19:52
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 166 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:13
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 208 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:25
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 169 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:35
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 254 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:42
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 183 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:47
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 223 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:57
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 304 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 21:22
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 214 Duketown 01-Dec-18 22:23
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 204 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 22:32
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 216 cladking 01-Dec-18 22:50
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 200 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 22:56
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 221 cladking 01-Dec-18 23:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 260 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 23:16
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 270 Manu 01-Dec-18 18:24
Egyptian Language Crash Course 319 Manu 01-Dec-18 16:35
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 216 Duketown 01-Dec-18 15:32
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 165 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 16:15
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 239 Duketown 01-Dec-18 17:28
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 179 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:20
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 263 Duketown 01-Dec-18 18:30
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 257 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:56
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 236 Duketown 01-Dec-18 22:42


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