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Hello Thanos5150; thank you for the reference.

Above you wrote: ”Of the many workmen's graffiti marks found on the underside of the blocks that cover Khufu's southern Khufu boat pits, one notes the 11th cattle count which given only Djedfre's name is found, not Khufu, implies this was the 11th cattle count under Djedefre's reign. There is some debate whether the cattle count occurred every year or every other year, but this would mean that Djedefre was making these boat pits some 11 or 22yrs after Khufu's death/end of reign. As noted in the picture above, there is also a secondary temenos wall running over the top of the boat pit meaning this too would have been made sometime after the boat pits were made.

As I have noted before regarding boat pits in general, this practice was seemingly abandoned after the 2nd Dynasty in which for reasons unknown, if they are even related, Djedefre revived the practice

The evidence strongly suggests Djedefre was responsible for the southern boat pits


From 2001, Miroslav Verner’s account addressed the ambiguity of the interpretations among the scholars of the time regarding the then known markings discovered on the roofing blocks of the pit for Khufu I.

Ten years later, in 2011, the Director of the Waseda University Mission Team in Egypt, Sakuji Yoshimura, reported regarding Khufu II that [“i]…while the fillings around the sides of the covering stone were being cleaned, the team uncovered the cartouche of the Fourth-Dynasty king Khufu inscribed on one of these blocks, and beside it the name of the crown prince Djedefre. This, he argued, meant that this boat was constructed during the reign of King Khufu and not, like the first boat now on display at a special museum on the plateau, during the reign of his son and successor Djedefre.

The generalization does not hold; Khufu was still King during the marking of the blocks roofing the boat pit for Khufu II.



Dr. Troglodyte


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G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 1810 Thanos5150 01-Nov-18 02:52
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 260 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Nov-18 16:15
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 239 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 01:27
Khufu II vs Khufu I 284 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Nov-18 00:50
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 367 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 248 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 19:21
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 212 Spiros 06-Nov-18 21:14
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 229 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 23:05
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 224 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 23:34
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 254 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 23:55
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 207 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 01:55
Off topic 226 Hanslune 07-Nov-18 03:32
Misnomers [?] 239 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Misnomers [?] 225 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 18:38
Re: Misnomers [?] 218 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 18:59
Re: Misnomers [?] 208 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 19:16
Re: Misnomers [?] 242 Manu 07-Nov-18 21:28
Re: Misnomers [?] 216 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Misnomers [?] 236 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 23:33
Re: Misnomers [?] 203 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 23:45
Re: Misnomers [?] 224 Manu 07-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Misnomers [?] 253 Martin Stower 08-Nov-18 12:30
Re: Misnomers [?] 200 Thanos5150 09-Nov-18 18:30
Re: Misnomers [?] 205 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 23:54
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 243 Morten 11-Nov-18 00:55
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 219 Spiros 01-Nov-18 18:51
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 222 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 01:44
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 261 Morten 02-Nov-18 02:42
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 271 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 04:57
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 243 Morten 02-Nov-18 10:46
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 226 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 20:48
Anyone who cites Rigano can't be too far wrong n/t 230 cladking 02-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Anyone who cites Rigano can't be too far wrong n/t 254 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 19:37
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 309 Graham Chase 02-Nov-18 21:24
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 266 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 03:25
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 221 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 04:28
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 215 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 02:30
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 214 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 02:40
Maybe stating the obvious but.... 259 Warwick 13-Nov-18 17:25
Re: Maybe stating the obvious but.... 251 Martin Stower 13-Nov-18 18:17
Re: Giza Map 282 Thanos5150 15-Nov-18 00:27
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 228 Thanos5150 28-Dec-18 05:14
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 279 Thanos5150 28-Dec-18 06:29


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