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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Corpuscles Wrote:
>
> > I am guessing, but an academic or professional
> > consultant will honour the clients information
> > requirements regardless of how silly or
> > impractical they might consider the overall
> > strategy. I think Fabio, assuming he had the
> > basics of your overall concept, would have
> likely
> > leaped ahead in his mind somewhat and saw the
> > major complications of building a device strong
> > enough to contain massive weight of water
> (stress)
> > and need for baffling to avoid slosh and
> > agitation. He started to get into complicated
> > things like resonance issues etc.
>
> I tend to agree. I suspect Fabio immediately
> recognised and therefore addressed anything that
> he saw as a possible shortcoming. Hence his
> zeroing in on the structural integrity of the
> large wooden rectangular water container.
> Wooden beer barrels are the shape they are for
> good reason. Nothing whatsoever to do with cute
> aesthetics.

Hi Jon,

Resolving the Funicular Question

In the below picture, both angles are the same, just as if side by side, ie the causeway. As in the Object on a slope, we show 60,000 lbs. It is a simple mirror of itself, and in a state of near Equilibrium. Using the calculator we have 4.6 with a cof. of .08. This formula will accelerate .176293 " per second.

Ref: [www.calctool.org]

The fact that it is a double incline plain, makes no difference at all, as all things are equal. A state of Equilibrium, without static, has been achieved.

What has been missing in everyone's understanding is, we are beyond static, and normally it would accelerate downward, thou it can't due to the counterweights equal conditions. Because it is out of a static rest, and in a state of equilibrium, it will move in either direction with very little effort. The static factor has been eliminated, and absorbed/balanced into the equation. The static is still there, though no longer can hold either weight from movement.

If the calculator gave us a 0.0000 result of acceleration, then we would need to over come some static amount. But, we are not at a static rest, we are balanced, and out by .176293 " of acceleration. The important factor, is that we are "beyond static, and balanced".

Changing the weight will not change this outcome, just as it doesn't change it on the calculator. It could be 20,000, 40,000 or 60,000 lbs.

What we need now is a friction factor for the pivot. As this will affect the above conditions. If the pivot friction is too much, we will once again return into a static position. Lower the cof slightly, and it will absorb the friction amount, and place it back into neutrality. The pivot below is approx. 18' wide, with Ebony and a greased polished stone. It would be better if a dozen ropes spread out and distributed the pressure. The other factor is the psi placed on the surfaces. You actually found those figures, and it is posted below. the Barge is 10 x 30' = 300. 300 x 2 tons (4,000 lbs.) = 1,200,000 lbs. It will protect the surfaces. We are at 40,000 and/or 60,000 lbs.

Men with ropes can easily control the above conditions. If you were to cut the rope in the middle, both weights would descend to the bottom.

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03-Jun-18 13:33 by Steve Clayton.

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Re: Causeways And The Sun 604 Barbelo 14-May-18 21:25
Re: Causeways And The Moon 771 Barbelo 15-May-18 23:01
The Causeway of Unas 538 Barbelo 16-May-18 22:00
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Re: Causeways And The Sun 503 Spiros 18-May-18 21:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 419 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 451 Spiros 19-May-18 11:54
Red Pyramid Causeway? 587 Barbelo 17-May-18 20:21
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 575 Thanos5150 18-May-18 04:20
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 454 Barbelo 18-May-18 05:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 493 Thanos5150 18-May-18 16:28
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 480 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:05
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 433 Thanos5150 18-May-18 22:49
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 473 Manu 18-May-18 05:31
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 536 Thanos5150 19-May-18 00:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 440 Manu 19-May-18 01:16
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 397 Thanos5150 19-May-18 02:08
Hor Us and Hat Hor 472 Barbelo 19-May-18 03:01
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 429 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:46
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 483 Thunderbird 18-May-18 17:59
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 405 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:48
Step Pyramid Causeway? 1208 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:29
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 426 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:06
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 413 Barbelo 19-May-18 21:30
Khafre Causeway 485 Barbelo 19-May-18 22:05
Re: Khafre Causeway 448 Thanos5150 20-May-18 00:53
Re: Khafre Causeway 1019 Barbelo 20-May-18 04:23
Re: Khafre Causeway 451 Thanos5150 20-May-18 17:27
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Re: Khafre Causeway 473 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:17
Re: Khafre Causeway 413 Barbelo 21-May-18 21:12
Re: Khafre Causeway 433 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:15
Unanswered Questions 402 Barbelo 22-May-18 22:06
Khufu Causeway 1003 Barbelo 20-May-18 22:37
Re: Khufu Causeway 463 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 444 Barbelo 22-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 490 DUNE 22-May-18 07:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 743 Thanos5150 22-May-18 14:38
Khufu'S Valley Temple 486 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:22
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 589 Thanos5150 23-May-18 02:45
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 495 Barbelo 23-May-18 23:20
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 623 Thanos5150 24-May-18 01:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 480 Barbelo 24-May-18 04:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 510 R Avry Wilson 26-May-18 00:41
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 515 Thanos5150 28-May-18 04:06
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 508 Origyptian 28-May-18 12:10
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 525 Thanos5150 29-May-18 03:54
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 431 Barbelo 29-May-18 06:20
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 451 Thanos5150 29-May-18 21:30
Wall of the Crow 461 Barbelo 29-May-18 22:12
Re: Wall of the Crow 471 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:31
Re: Wall of the Crow 438 Barbelo 30-May-18 06:10
Re: LOL!.....No copper sheet/water Causeway at Coral Castle : ) 432 Thunderbird 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Wall of the Crow 655 Thanos5150 31-May-18 01:05
Re: Wall of the Crow 531 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 06:58
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 441 Corpuscles 29-May-18 22:30
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 436 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:56
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 472 Romulus the 2nd 04-Jun-18 11:53
Re: Khufu Causeway 355 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:29
Re: Khufu Causeway 529 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 407 Manu 25-Sep-18 12:43
Re: Khufu Causeway 371 cladking 25-Sep-18 13:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 360 DUNE 25-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 366 Spiros 25-Sep-18 14:48
Re: Khufu Causeway 366 Manu 25-Sep-18 15:39
Re: Khufu Causeway 453 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:07
Re: Khufu Causeway 411 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:31
Re: Khufu Causeway 363 DUNE 25-Sep-18 19:13
Re: Khufu Causeway 370 cladking 25-Sep-18 19:52
Re: Khufu Causeway 414 DUNE 25-Sep-18 20:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 353 cladking 26-Sep-18 19:23
Re: Khufu Causeway 382 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 03:02
Practical applications 420 Audrey 27-Sep-18 00:12
Re: Practical applications 497 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 06:14
Re: Practical applications 469 DUNE 27-Sep-18 08:58
Re: Practical applications 423 cladking 27-Sep-18 13:48
Re: Practical applications 409 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:46
Re: Practical applications 377 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:07
Re: Practical applications 427 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 15:51
Re: Practical applications 402 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 16:36
Re: Practical applications 374 cladking 27-Sep-18 16:51
Re: Practical applications 393 cladking 27-Sep-18 17:13
Re: Practical applications 360 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 20:08
Re: Practical applications 347 Thunderbird 27-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Practical applications 369 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 22:07
Re: Practical applications 377 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:17
Re: Practical applications 369 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 13:52
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 348 cladking 28-Sep-18 14:08
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 362 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 15:20
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 360 cladking 28-Sep-18 15:40
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 347 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 18:00
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 354 cladking 28-Sep-18 18:38
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 414 cladking 30-Sep-18 23:41
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 418 Eddie Larry 01-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 346 cladking 01-Oct-18 02:50
Re: Practical applications 428 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:25
The First Question 367 Barbelo 25-Sep-18 22:29
Re: The First Question 356 Manu 26-Sep-18 01:28
Re: The First Question 360 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 04:45
Re: The First Question 406 Manu 26-Sep-18 06:31
Re: The First Question 401 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 16:17
Re: The First Question 376 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 21:48
Re: The First Question 336 Manu 27-Sep-18 03:23
Re: The First Question 357 cladking 27-Sep-18 04:22
Re: The First Question 367 Sirfiroth 27-Sep-18 17:23
"Original" Causeway 425 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:51
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 394 DUNE 28-Sep-18 10:22
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 464 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 11:48
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 347 DUNE 28-Sep-18 13:02
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 402 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 20:32
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 362 DUNE 28-Sep-18 21:13
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 372 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 22:34
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 357 Thanos5150 28-Sep-18 16:25
Re: "Original" Causeway 368 Spiros 28-Sep-18 13:14
Re: The First Question 403 Corpuscles 26-Sep-18 06:41
Re: The First Question 373 DUNE 26-Sep-18 09:16
Re: The First Question 378 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:20
Re: The First Question 371 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:30
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Hetepheres I Boat Pit 384 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:13
Re: The First Question 361 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 01:35
14 Degrees [?] 468 Dr. Troglodyte 22-May-18 14:34
Re: 14 Degrees [?] 461 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:42
Re: 14 Degrees [?] 434 Spiros 23-May-18 11:50
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Re: Gizaâ€™s Causeways â€“ Proof of Concept Solar Study 459 Spiros 23-May-18 17:49
Re: Gizaâ€™s Causeways â€“ Proof of Concept Solar Study 417 Spiros 26-May-18 17:47
what if.. 435 Spiros 27-May-18 02:45
Re: what if.. 393 DUNE 27-May-18 08:32
Re: what if.. 413 Spiros 28-May-18 21:57
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Re: Gizaâ€™s Causeways â€“ Proof of Concept Solar Study 461 molder 26-May-18 06:31
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Re: Khufuâ€™s Causeway - Update 411 Barbelo 02-Jun-18 03:42
Re, the Sun & causeways 306 hendrik dirker 07-Jul-19 05:57
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Re: Causeways And The Sun 432 Origyptian 26-May-18 02:47
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Re: Causeways And The Sun 423 Origyptian 29-May-18 16:18
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