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Barbelo Wrote:
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> Were the causeways of Ancient Egypt really
> practical constructions for utilitarian use?
>
> Are the angles of the causeways of the Giza
> Pyramids coincidental?
>
>
>
>
>
> If the causeways are simply pavements for
> transporting materials, then why are they set at
> specific angles of 14 degrees North and South for
> Khufu and Khafre, and 0 degrees in the case of
> Menkaure?
>
> There are very few remaining sections of any AE
> causeways for research, but Unas gives some
> insight into their appearance.
>
>
>
> If the function of a causeway was for the purpose
> of moving blocks, stones etc., then why cover it?
>
> Herodotus describes the GP causeway thus:
>
> "here passed ten years while the causeway was made
> by which they drew the stones, which causeway they
> built, and it is a work not much less, as it
> appears to me, than the pyramid; for the length of
> it is five furlongs and the breadth ten fathoms
> and the height, where it is highest, eight
> fathoms, and it is made of stone smoothed and with
> figures carved upon it. For this, they said, the
> ten years were spent, and for the underground
> chambers on the hill upon which the pyramids
> stand.
>
> Herodotus: Second Book of The Histories"
>
>
>
> The remnant of the Unas causeway bears similarly
> styled motifs.
>
> The Temple at Abu Simbel allows a ray of the Sun
> to penetrate to its rear wall on only two days of
> the year which are important dates in the reign of
> Ramesses 11.
>
>
>
>
> Quite possibly, the "causeways" at Giza were
> covered and similarly are solar indicators of
> important dates for reasons solely known to the
> intelligentsia of Giza.
>
> The fact that each causeway ends in a temple near
> each of the pyramids lessens any utilitarian
> reason, and the fact that the causeway of Khufu
> actually runs over a cliff renders it highly
> impractical as a means of transporting materials
> easily.
>
> Quite possibly, the painting and motifs were added
> at a later date by a culture unfamiliar with the
> original use of the causeway, and also, quite
> possibly, there is no connection between the
> pyramids and the causeways, but it was the temple
> which was the focus of its construction.
>
> The fact that the Mortuary Temple of Menkaure
> actually abuts the Pyramid indicates that the
> temple, although highly eroded, may postdate the
> pyramid, which brings into question the funerary
> aspects of both pyramids and temples, at least in
> their initial concept.
>
>
>
> PWH


Hi Barbelo,

I am not disagreeing with everything you have said. Though here are a few other items, you might want to consider.

Kufu's causeway exteded out in to the City below only a short distance. On Sept. 14, 2014, I drew a map, based on the 4.6 angle projection, where his causeway should end. Ref: [grahamhancock.com]
This 4.6 line is at ground level. If higher, it would extend farther into the City below, approx. where they uncovered the Kufu's Causeway.

4 1/2 months later, In January 2015 a man had dug down in his house, and found the end of the causeway. From the pictures that were published, you can see from the roof top, you are not very far, and that it is not a dog leg to the left, when viewed from the top. That would put you in or near the Golf course.



Ref: [www.ancient-origins.net]
Ref: [gate.ahram.org.eg]

On the second link, right click you mouse, and a translation option should appear.

Covering the causeway could simply mean they preferred to be in the shade, verses working out in the hot sun. Once Kufu's pyramid was finished, they decorated it, putting the final touches on the project. The Temples were built after the causeway was no longer needed for moving stones from the Nile, up to the pyramid. Consider, it could have been used for more than one purpose. Funerary included.

What seems more likely? They dragged stones in the dirt and sand uphill, or they used the causeway. Even if you don't like the Funicular concept, dragging stones in sand uphill is not possible. Just watch Mark Lehner attempt it in his new made for TV " Secrets of the Lost".

Ref: [www.sciencechannel.com]

They had to resort to using wood tracks. The causeway could have had, wood track at one time?

Causeways reaching far back in time, have had this two platform with a lower center section design. The AE religion was not static. As with all things, it changed over time. How do you explain the design? They needed two platforms for coming and going?

> The fact that each causeway ends in a temple near
> each of the pyramids lessens any utilitarian
> reason, and the fact that the causeway of Khufu
> actually runs over a cliff renders it highly
> impractical as a means of transporting materials
> easily.

We don't know how old the Pyramids are. The Nile could have eroded the land over the cliff. If anything, it indicates the Pyramids are older than they suspect. The papyrus document found, could only be referring to casing stones placed on the existing pyramid, as there is an exurbanite amount of plaster and rubble used. Pre-planning for the casing stones in one build, would be desired and engineered for their tight placement, and this is not what we find.



> Were the causeways of Ancient Egypt really
> practical constructions for utilitarian use?

YES.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01-Jun-18 02:29 by Steve Clayton.

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Causeways And The Sun 3282 Barbelo 14-May-18 04:29
Re: Causeways And The Sun 507 kborissov 14-May-18 15:44
Re: Causeways And The Sun 513 Barbelo 14-May-18 21:25
Re: Causeways And The Moon 622 Barbelo 15-May-18 23:01
The Causeway of Unas 441 Barbelo 16-May-18 22:00
Re: Causeways And The Sun 402 Spiros 17-May-18 00:12
Re: Causeways And The Sun 414 Barbelo 17-May-18 01:35
Re: Causeways And The Sun 409 Spiros 17-May-18 01:46
Re: Causeways And The Sun 423 Barbelo 17-May-18 02:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 410 Spiros 18-May-18 21:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 333 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 343 Spiros 19-May-18 11:54
Red Pyramid Causeway? 478 Barbelo 17-May-18 20:21
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 479 Thanos5150 18-May-18 04:20
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 374 Barbelo 18-May-18 05:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 405 Thanos5150 18-May-18 16:28
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 397 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:05
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 344 Thanos5150 18-May-18 22:49
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 391 Manu 18-May-18 05:31
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 378 Thanos5150 19-May-18 00:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 349 Manu 19-May-18 01:16
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 309 Thanos5150 19-May-18 02:08
Hor Us and Hat Hor 377 Barbelo 19-May-18 03:01
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 346 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:46
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 384 Thunderbird 18-May-18 17:59
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 318 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:48
Step Pyramid Causeway? 881 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:29
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 343 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:06
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 326 Barbelo 19-May-18 21:30
Khafre Causeway 385 Barbelo 19-May-18 22:05
Re: Khafre Causeway 356 Thanos5150 20-May-18 00:53
Re: Khafre Causeway 645 Barbelo 20-May-18 04:23
Re: Khafre Causeway 353 Thanos5150 20-May-18 17:27
Re: Khafre Causeway 382 Barbelo 20-May-18 21:50
Re: Khafre Causeway 396 Thanos5150 21-May-18 01:00
Re: Khafre Causeway 323 Barbelo 21-May-18 02:07
Re: Khafre Causeway 383 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:17
Re: Khafre Causeway 330 Barbelo 21-May-18 21:12
Re: Khafre Causeway 340 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:15
Unanswered Questions 310 Barbelo 22-May-18 22:06
Khufu Causeway 707 Barbelo 20-May-18 22:37
Re: Khufu Causeway 371 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 353 Barbelo 22-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 393 DUNE 22-May-18 07:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 552 Thanos5150 22-May-18 14:38
Khufu'S Valley Temple 392 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:22
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 489 Thanos5150 23-May-18 02:45
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 408 Barbelo 23-May-18 23:20
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 528 Thanos5150 24-May-18 01:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 388 Barbelo 24-May-18 04:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 411 R Avry Wilson 26-May-18 00:41
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 412 Thanos5150 28-May-18 04:06
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 411 Origyptian 28-May-18 12:10
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 428 Thanos5150 29-May-18 03:54
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 349 Barbelo 29-May-18 06:20
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 360 Thanos5150 29-May-18 21:30
Wall of the Crow 375 Barbelo 29-May-18 22:12
Re: Wall of the Crow 380 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:31
Re: Wall of the Crow 341 Barbelo 30-May-18 06:10
Re: LOL!.....No copper sheet/water Causeway at Coral Castle : ) 349 Thunderbird 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Wall of the Crow 521 Thanos5150 31-May-18 01:05
Re: Wall of the Crow 425 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 06:58
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 345 Corpuscles 29-May-18 22:30
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 330 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:56
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 377 Romulus the 2nd 04-Jun-18 11:53
Re: Khufu Causeway 272 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:29
Re: Khufu Causeway 372 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 322 Manu 25-Sep-18 12:43
Re: Khufu Causeway 274 cladking 25-Sep-18 13:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 275 DUNE 25-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 284 Spiros 25-Sep-18 14:48
Re: Khufu Causeway 283 Manu 25-Sep-18 15:39
Re: Khufu Causeway 358 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:07
Re: Khufu Causeway 323 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:31
Re: Khufu Causeway 283 DUNE 25-Sep-18 19:13
Re: Khufu Causeway 281 cladking 25-Sep-18 19:52
Re: Khufu Causeway 331 DUNE 25-Sep-18 20:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 272 cladking 26-Sep-18 19:23
Re: Khufu Causeway 306 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 03:02
Practical applications 333 Audrey 27-Sep-18 00:12
Re: Practical applications 339 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 06:14
Re: Practical applications 375 DUNE 27-Sep-18 08:58
Re: Practical applications 341 cladking 27-Sep-18 13:48
Re: Practical applications 321 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:46
Re: Practical applications 296 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:07
Re: Practical applications 342 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 15:51
Re: Practical applications 324 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 16:36
Re: Practical applications 262 cladking 27-Sep-18 16:51
Re: Practical applications 290 cladking 27-Sep-18 17:13
Re: Practical applications 271 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 20:08
Re: Practical applications 266 Thunderbird 27-Sep-18 21:54
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Re: Practical applications 279 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:17
Re: Practical applications 286 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 13:52
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 264 cladking 28-Sep-18 14:08
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Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 268 cladking 28-Sep-18 15:40
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Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 269 cladking 28-Sep-18 18:38
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Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 330 Eddie Larry 01-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 263 cladking 01-Oct-18 02:50
Re: Practical applications 344 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:25
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Re: The First Question 264 Manu 26-Sep-18 01:28
Re: The First Question 276 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 04:45
Re: The First Question 308 Manu 26-Sep-18 06:31
Re: The First Question 308 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 16:17
Re: The First Question 290 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 21:48
Re: The First Question 254 Manu 27-Sep-18 03:23
Re: The First Question 273 cladking 27-Sep-18 04:22
Re: The First Question 289 Sirfiroth 27-Sep-18 17:23
"Original" Causeway 344 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:51
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 304 DUNE 28-Sep-18 10:22
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 356 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 11:48
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 269 DUNE 28-Sep-18 13:02
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 320 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 20:32
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 273 DUNE 28-Sep-18 21:13
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 286 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 22:34
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 264 Thanos5150 28-Sep-18 16:25
Re: "Original" Causeway 285 Spiros 28-Sep-18 13:14
Re: The First Question 313 Corpuscles 26-Sep-18 06:41
Re: The First Question 284 DUNE 26-Sep-18 09:16
Re: The First Question 282 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:20
Re: The First Question 282 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:30
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Re: Khafre M.T. floor versus Khufu 267 Barbelo 27-Sep-18 06:04
Hetepheres I Boat Pit 297 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:13
Re: The First Question 281 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 01:35
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Re: 14 Degrees [?] 364 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:42
Re: 14 Degrees [?] 337 Spiros 23-May-18 11:50
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Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 372 Spiros 23-May-18 17:49
Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 331 Spiros 26-May-18 17:47
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Re: what if.. 304 DUNE 27-May-18 08:32
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Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 407 Thanos5150 23-May-18 20:51
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Khufu’s Causeway - Update 463 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Jun-18 19:48
Re: Khufu’s Causeway - Update 327 Barbelo 02-Jun-18 03:42
Re, the Sun & causeways 210 hendrik dirker 07-Jul-19 05:57
Re: Khufu’s Causeway - Update 189 Spiros 10-Sep-19 13:34
Re: Causeways And The Sun 345 Origyptian 26-May-18 02:47
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Re: Causeways or Sand? 375 Corpuscles 29-May-18 07:31
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