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Barbelo Wrote:
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> One concern that I had with the ancient perimeter
> wall suggestion was that it is offset with
> relation to the building work - heads slightly
> NW.
>
> I can't vouch for the veracity of the linked
> article but it gives another perspective on why
> the wall may be offset. Maybe an elevated causeway
> with missing temples at each end.
>
> [home.hiwaay.net]

This seems to be a more accurate perspective:


This is a very interesting map that speaks directly to what I've been saying about a central location of bringing stone from the Nile to service the entire plateau:


Regarding the Wall of the Crow, it seems to be related to the waterway. It is interesting to think there may have been a bridge over the waterway from one of the "islands" leading to the Wall of the Crow. If Lehner is right, and Set 1 of the Gallery Complex predates the WoC then this suggests whatever its purpose was well into the period in which construction had begun.

We can see best path to G1 is like I have suggested in previous threads at the right of the Sphinx harbor where the modern road is today:


I haven't quite figured it out yet, but I am stuck on the idea the Sphinx enclosure was part of this process before the Sphinx was carved into a statue.

Regardless, as far as G2's causeway being a material transportation ramp, this map puts yet another dagger in this dead horse as the Khentkawes segment of the harbor would have been a more direct and shorter land route. Even using Menkaure's causeway then cutting over would be a shorter land route and would have serviced both G2 and G3 without a pesky temple getting in the way as Menkaure's Valley Temple at least was obviously built after construction of the pyramids:

Other than the limestone base and part of a wall, which leaves one to wonder what it was actually supposed to be during the time of pyramid building, it again was left uncompleted shoddily worked over by Shepseskaf (in mud brick) with most of the structure being built in the 5th and 6th Dynasties (in mud brick).

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Causeways And The Sun 3503 Barbelo 14-May-18 04:29
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Re: Causeways And The Sun 614 Barbelo 14-May-18 21:25
Re: Causeways And The Moon 781 Barbelo 15-May-18 23:01
The Causeway of Unas 547 Barbelo 16-May-18 22:00
Re: Causeways And The Sun 501 Spiros 17-May-18 00:12
Re: Causeways And The Sun 515 Barbelo 17-May-18 01:35
Re: Causeways And The Sun 508 Spiros 17-May-18 01:46
Re: Causeways And The Sun 526 Barbelo 17-May-18 02:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 511 Spiros 18-May-18 21:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 431 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 461 Spiros 19-May-18 11:54
Red Pyramid Causeway? 596 Barbelo 17-May-18 20:21
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 584 Thanos5150 18-May-18 04:20
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 463 Barbelo 18-May-18 05:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 500 Thanos5150 18-May-18 16:28
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 489 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:05
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 442 Thanos5150 18-May-18 22:49
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 482 Manu 18-May-18 05:31
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 546 Thanos5150 19-May-18 00:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 453 Manu 19-May-18 01:16
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 406 Thanos5150 19-May-18 02:08
Hor Us and Hat Hor 483 Barbelo 19-May-18 03:01
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 439 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:46
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 493 Thunderbird 18-May-18 17:59
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 413 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:48
Step Pyramid Causeway? 1224 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:29
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 434 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:06
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 422 Barbelo 19-May-18 21:30
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Re: Khafre Causeway 457 Thanos5150 20-May-18 00:53
Re: Khafre Causeway 1040 Barbelo 20-May-18 04:23
Re: Khafre Causeway 459 Thanos5150 20-May-18 17:27
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Re: Khafre Causeway 412 Barbelo 21-May-18 02:07
Re: Khafre Causeway 482 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:17
Re: Khafre Causeway 421 Barbelo 21-May-18 21:12
Re: Khafre Causeway 441 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:15
Unanswered Questions 410 Barbelo 22-May-18 22:06
Khufu Causeway 1016 Barbelo 20-May-18 22:37
Re: Khufu Causeway 475 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 454 Barbelo 22-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 500 DUNE 22-May-18 07:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 751 Thanos5150 22-May-18 14:38
Khufu'S Valley Temple 496 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:22
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 596 Thanos5150 23-May-18 02:45
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 507 Barbelo 23-May-18 23:20
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 634 Thanos5150 24-May-18 01:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 488 Barbelo 24-May-18 04:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 516 R Avry Wilson 26-May-18 00:41
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 524 Thanos5150 28-May-18 04:06
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 518 Origyptian 28-May-18 12:10
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 535 Thanos5150 29-May-18 03:54
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 440 Barbelo 29-May-18 06:20
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 460 Thanos5150 29-May-18 21:30
Wall of the Crow 470 Barbelo 29-May-18 22:12
Re: Wall of the Crow 483 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:31
Re: Wall of the Crow 446 Barbelo 30-May-18 06:10
Re: LOL!.....No copper sheet/water Causeway at Coral Castle : ) 441 Thunderbird 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Wall of the Crow 669 Thanos5150 31-May-18 01:05
Re: Wall of the Crow 541 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 06:58
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 470 Corpuscles 29-May-18 22:30
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 444 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:56
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 481 Romulus the 2nd 04-Jun-18 11:53
Re: Khufu Causeway 363 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:29
Re: Khufu Causeway 570 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 416 Manu 25-Sep-18 12:43
Re: Khufu Causeway 380 cladking 25-Sep-18 13:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 368 DUNE 25-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 374 Spiros 25-Sep-18 14:48
Re: Khufu Causeway 376 Manu 25-Sep-18 15:39
Re: Khufu Causeway 462 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:07
Re: Khufu Causeway 421 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:31
Re: Khufu Causeway 372 DUNE 25-Sep-18 19:13
Re: Khufu Causeway 393 cladking 25-Sep-18 19:52
Re: Khufu Causeway 425 DUNE 25-Sep-18 20:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 362 cladking 26-Sep-18 19:23
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Re: The First Question 366 Manu 26-Sep-18 01:28
Re: The First Question 368 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 04:45
Re: The First Question 414 Manu 26-Sep-18 06:31
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Re: The First Question 347 Manu 27-Sep-18 03:23
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Re: The First Question 376 Sirfiroth 27-Sep-18 17:23
"Original" Causeway 438 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:51
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 402 DUNE 28-Sep-18 10:22
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 507 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 11:48
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 356 DUNE 28-Sep-18 13:02
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Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 386 DUNE 28-Sep-18 21:13
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Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 366 Thanos5150 28-Sep-18 16:25
Re: "Original" Causeway 376 Spiros 28-Sep-18 13:14
Re: The First Question 412 Corpuscles 26-Sep-18 06:41
Re: The First Question 382 DUNE 26-Sep-18 09:16
Re: The First Question 390 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:20
Re: The First Question 379 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:30
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Hetepheres I Boat Pit 393 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:13
Re: The First Question 370 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 01:35
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Re: Causeways And The Sun 443 Origyptian 26-May-18 02:47
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