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Your own words betray your claim of
> rationality, unless you have definitive proof that
> there were no geysers. Othewise, geysers remain a
> possiblity, regardless how remote that possibility
> may seem.

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> There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of cold
> water geysers being discovered on the Giza
> plateau.
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> But with your fantasy brain in overdrive, now
> anything is a possibility, no matter how remote.
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> Ok.
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> Let's add in some remote possibilities for
> building the pyramids which you can mull over
> along with geysers.
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> What about the remote but possible idea of
> hundreds of desert rats powering treadmills?
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> What about the remote but possible idea of super
> large kites made of papyrus?
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> What about the remote but possible idea of nuclear
> powered wands?
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> And you wonder why I use the term "crackpot."
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> PWH

Respectfully to all those experts who put their blood and sweat into thier investigations over the centuries, I have no doubt that they did their best to try to make sense out of all those ruins and artifacts based on their limited knowledge of materials science and engineering, but for them to claim those strucutures must have been built out of a funerary motive, to fabricate without any evidence other than unfounded ancient Greek hearsay that huge construction inclines that themselves required 10 years to build and were made of 2x the mass of the pyramid itself so that thousands of men could use ropes to haul megaliths up to the pyramid, that such magnificantly complex structures as the GG, AP, RCs, etc were simply designed to be a passage to host a royal funerary procession may have been their best shot, but by today's standards is, frankly, what some people might call crackpot, ie, eccentric or impractical.

To already demand definitive evidence as any sort of "proof" while a hypothesis is still in its initial formation which is clearly stated as being tenttive and under development as it explores different scientific principles as possibilities while you go off insisting that it's a "definitively certain fact" that those stone pyramids were built by late stone agers in 3rd millennium BC Dynastic Egypt knowing full well that you and your mainstream experts have yet to find any shred of evidence of the tools and methods that can account for such structures only reveals your flaming double standard and lack of any modicum of evidence or logic to support such grant notions as you, yourself, demand must be supported by definitive physical evidence that clearly does not exist.

During your years here, you haven't learned a blessed thing about the scientific method. Rather, you continue to disregard modern standards of scientific thought and logic and isntead felt the need to simply change your handle, perhaps because your posts under your earlier handle didn't work out so well, as if changing your name will change the strength of the baseless arguments behind those tenuous tenets that clearly have begin to suffocate under their own weight.

I no longer have any interest in trying to make you understand of the difference between fact and possibility, or between theory and hypothesis, or between modern science and engineering that's attempting to make some real sense out of the physical evidence by developing new WIP hypotheses based on real physical evidence and logic that you seem so eager to ignore vs.our aged and rusty legacy of untold thousands of investigators, most of whom have no training in scientific principles but rather who relied on their presumptions about religion, language, art, and culture over many centuries only to lead us into this deadend mess that, not surprisingly, makes little to no sense at all. What they left us are a long series of dogmatic claims based on the scantest of evidence, twisted logic, and loaded with ignored contradiction, all of which simply reveals their lack of understanding of, or in many cases any interest in, the most basic principels of science, engineering, and logic.

I don't debate with ideologues who think they can argue from an unscientific perspective. I appreciate your right to believe whatever you want. But do not for one second try to pawn that off as a scientific approach that's been proven with physical evidence or a modicum of logic and reason, while salting your baseless notions with insults and sarcasm in lieu of logic and reason. It may have worked before civiliation developed more modern standards of proof, but it simply doesn't work anymore.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 28-May-18 11:49 by Origyptian.

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Causeways And The Sun 3282 Barbelo 14-May-18 04:29
Re: Causeways And The Sun 506 kborissov 14-May-18 15:44
Re: Causeways And The Sun 512 Barbelo 14-May-18 21:25
Re: Causeways And The Moon 621 Barbelo 15-May-18 23:01
The Causeway of Unas 441 Barbelo 16-May-18 22:00
Re: Causeways And The Sun 402 Spiros 17-May-18 00:12
Re: Causeways And The Sun 413 Barbelo 17-May-18 01:35
Re: Causeways And The Sun 409 Spiros 17-May-18 01:46
Re: Causeways And The Sun 423 Barbelo 17-May-18 02:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 409 Spiros 18-May-18 21:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 333 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 343 Spiros 19-May-18 11:54
Red Pyramid Causeway? 477 Barbelo 17-May-18 20:21
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 479 Thanos5150 18-May-18 04:20
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 374 Barbelo 18-May-18 05:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 405 Thanos5150 18-May-18 16:28
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 397 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:05
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 344 Thanos5150 18-May-18 22:49
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 391 Manu 18-May-18 05:31
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 378 Thanos5150 19-May-18 00:00
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 349 Manu 19-May-18 01:16
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 309 Thanos5150 19-May-18 02:08
Hor Us and Hat Hor 376 Barbelo 19-May-18 03:01
Re: Red Pyramid Causeway? 346 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:46
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 383 Thunderbird 18-May-18 17:59
Re: Giza - Ancient Prime Meridian 318 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:48
Step Pyramid Causeway? 881 Barbelo 18-May-18 22:29
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 343 Thanos5150 19-May-18 14:06
Re: Step Pyramid Causeway? 326 Barbelo 19-May-18 21:30
Khafre Causeway 384 Barbelo 19-May-18 22:05
Re: Khafre Causeway 355 Thanos5150 20-May-18 00:53
Re: Khafre Causeway 645 Barbelo 20-May-18 04:23
Re: Khafre Causeway 353 Thanos5150 20-May-18 17:27
Re: Khafre Causeway 382 Barbelo 20-May-18 21:50
Re: Khafre Causeway 396 Thanos5150 21-May-18 01:00
Re: Khafre Causeway 322 Barbelo 21-May-18 02:07
Re: Khafre Causeway 383 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:17
Re: Khafre Causeway 330 Barbelo 21-May-18 21:12
Re: Khafre Causeway 340 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:15
Unanswered Questions 309 Barbelo 22-May-18 22:06
Khufu Causeway 707 Barbelo 20-May-18 22:37
Re: Khufu Causeway 370 Thanos5150 21-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 353 Barbelo 22-May-18 04:08
Re: Khufu Causeway 393 DUNE 22-May-18 07:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 552 Thanos5150 22-May-18 14:38
Khufu'S Valley Temple 392 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:22
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 489 Thanos5150 23-May-18 02:45
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 408 Barbelo 23-May-18 23:20
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 528 Thanos5150 24-May-18 01:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 388 Barbelo 24-May-18 04:11
Re: Khufu's Valley Temple 411 R Avry Wilson 26-May-18 00:41
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 411 Thanos5150 28-May-18 04:06
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 411 Origyptian 28-May-18 12:10
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 428 Thanos5150 29-May-18 03:54
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 348 Barbelo 29-May-18 06:20
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 359 Thanos5150 29-May-18 21:30
Wall of the Crow 375 Barbelo 29-May-18 22:12
Re: Wall of the Crow 380 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:31
Re: Wall of the Crow 341 Barbelo 30-May-18 06:10
Re: LOL!.....No copper sheet/water Causeway at Coral Castle : ) 348 Thunderbird 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Wall of the Crow 521 Thanos5150 31-May-18 01:05
Re: Wall of the Crow 425 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 06:58
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 345 Corpuscles 29-May-18 22:30
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 330 Thanos5150 29-May-18 23:56
Re: Khufu'S Valley Temple 377 Romulus the 2nd 04-Jun-18 11:53
Re: Khufu Causeway 272 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:29
Re: Khufu Causeway 372 Thanos5150 22-May-18 15:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 322 Manu 25-Sep-18 12:43
Re: Khufu Causeway 274 cladking 25-Sep-18 13:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 274 DUNE 25-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Khufu Causeway 284 Spiros 25-Sep-18 14:48
Re: Khufu Causeway 282 Manu 25-Sep-18 15:39
Re: Khufu Causeway 358 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:07
Re: Khufu Causeway 323 DUNE 25-Sep-18 17:31
Re: Khufu Causeway 282 DUNE 25-Sep-18 19:13
Re: Khufu Causeway 280 cladking 25-Sep-18 19:52
Re: Khufu Causeway 330 DUNE 25-Sep-18 20:22
Re: Khufu Causeway 272 cladking 26-Sep-18 19:23
Re: Khufu Causeway 306 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 03:02
Practical applications 332 Audrey 27-Sep-18 00:12
Re: Practical applications 339 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 06:14
Re: Practical applications 375 DUNE 27-Sep-18 08:58
Re: Practical applications 341 cladking 27-Sep-18 13:48
Re: Practical applications 321 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:46
Re: Practical applications 295 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:07
Re: Practical applications 342 Thanos5150 27-Sep-18 15:51
Re: Practical applications 324 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 16:36
Re: Practical applications 261 cladking 27-Sep-18 16:51
Re: Practical applications 290 cladking 27-Sep-18 17:13
Re: Practical applications 271 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 20:08
Re: Practical applications 265 Thunderbird 27-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Practical applications 283 Eddie Larry 27-Sep-18 22:07
Re: Practical applications 278 cladking 28-Sep-18 13:17
Re: Practical applications 286 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 13:52
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 263 cladking 28-Sep-18 14:08
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 275 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 15:20
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 268 cladking 28-Sep-18 15:40
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 261 Eddie Larry 28-Sep-18 18:00
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 269 cladking 28-Sep-18 18:38
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 324 cladking 30-Sep-18 23:41
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 330 Eddie Larry 01-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Practical applications (and infrastructure) 263 cladking 01-Oct-18 02:50
Re: Practical applications 344 Audrey 28-Sep-18 02:25
The First Question 283 Barbelo 25-Sep-18 22:29
Re: The First Question 264 Manu 26-Sep-18 01:28
Re: The First Question 275 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 04:45
Re: The First Question 307 Manu 26-Sep-18 06:31
Re: The First Question 307 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 16:17
Re: The First Question 290 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 21:48
Re: The First Question 254 Manu 27-Sep-18 03:23
Re: The First Question 273 cladking 27-Sep-18 04:22
Re: The First Question 289 Sirfiroth 27-Sep-18 17:23
"Original" Causeway 344 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:51
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 303 DUNE 28-Sep-18 10:22
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 356 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 11:48
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 269 DUNE 28-Sep-18 13:02
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 319 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 20:32
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 273 DUNE 28-Sep-18 21:13
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 286 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 22:34
Re: A Change of Plan, The Trial Passage & That Platform 264 Thanos5150 28-Sep-18 16:25
Re: "Original" Causeway 285 Spiros 28-Sep-18 13:14
Re: The First Question 313 Corpuscles 26-Sep-18 06:41
Re: The First Question 284 DUNE 26-Sep-18 09:16
Re: The First Question 281 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:20
Re: The First Question 282 Barbelo 26-Sep-18 11:30
Khafre M.T. floor versus Khufu 307 Manu 26-Sep-18 12:06
Re: Khafre M.T. floor versus Khufu 266 Barbelo 27-Sep-18 06:04
Hetepheres I Boat Pit 297 Barbelo 28-Sep-18 05:13
Re: The First Question 280 Thanos5150 26-Sep-18 01:35
14 Degrees [?] 358 Dr. Troglodyte 22-May-18 14:34
Re: 14 Degrees [?] 363 Barbelo 22-May-18 21:42
Re: 14 Degrees [?] 336 Spiros 23-May-18 11:50
Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study [Update: 4MAR19] 528 Dr. Troglodyte 23-May-18 16:48
Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 372 Spiros 23-May-18 17:49
Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 331 Spiros 26-May-18 17:47
what if.. 350 Spiros 27-May-18 02:45
Re: what if.. 304 DUNE 27-May-18 08:32
Re: what if.. 312 Spiros 28-May-18 21:57
Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 407 Thanos5150 23-May-18 20:51
Re: Giza’s Causeways – Proof of Concept Solar Study 369 molder 26-May-18 06:31
Khufu’s Causeway - Update 463 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Jun-18 19:48
Re: Khufu’s Causeway - Update 327 Barbelo 02-Jun-18 03:42
Re, the Sun & causeways 210 hendrik dirker 07-Jul-19 05:57
Re: Khufu’s Causeway - Update 189 Spiros 10-Sep-19 13:34
Re: Causeways And The Sun 345 Origyptian 26-May-18 02:47
Re: Causeways And The Sun 431 Barbelo 26-May-18 05:41
Re: Causeways And The Sun 384 Origyptian 26-May-18 11:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 382 cladking 26-May-18 13:55
Re: Causeways And The Sun 320 Barbelo 26-May-18 20:20
Re: Causeways And The Sun 341 Origyptian 27-May-18 02:37
Re: Causeways And The Sun 349 Barbelo 27-May-18 03:59
Re: Causeways And The Sun 338 Jon Ellison 27-May-18 09:01
Re: Causeways And The Sun 310 Barbelo 27-May-18 11:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 311 Jon Ellison 27-May-18 11:52
Re: Causeways And The Sun 321 Sirfiroth 27-May-18 13:13
Re: Causeways And The Sun 331 Origyptian 27-May-18 13:32
Re: Causeways And The Sun 332 cladking 27-May-18 13:37
Re: Causeways And The Sun 313 Sirfiroth 28-May-18 01:23
Re: Causeways And The Sun 332 cladking 28-May-18 02:06
Re: Causeways And The Sun 348 Jon Ellison 27-May-18 22:58
Re: Causeways And The Sun 300 Sirfiroth 28-May-18 01:44
Re: Causeways And The Sun 317 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 03:29
Re: Causeways And The Sun 383 Jon Ellison 28-May-18 08:33
Re: Causeways And The Sun 373 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 14:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 339 Jon Ellison 28-May-18 15:37
Re: Causeways And The Sun 333 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 15:42
Re: Causeways And The Sun 355 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 16:21
Re: Causeways And The Sun 298 Origyptian 29-May-18 13:10
Re: Causeways And The Sun 312 Steve Clayton 29-May-18 15:08
Re: Causeways And The Sun 342 Origyptian 29-May-18 16:18
Re: Causeways And The Sun 330 Sirfiroth 28-May-18 16:38
Re: Causeways And The Sun 317 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 17:08
Re: Causeways And The Sun 321 Sirfiroth 28-May-18 21:01
Re: Causeways And The Sun 321 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 21:11
Re: Causeways And The Sun 304 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 21:38
Re: Causeways And The Sun 310 Sirfiroth 29-May-18 02:07
Re: Causeways And The Sun 306 Eddie Larry 29-May-18 02:38
Re: Causeways And The Sun 309 Sirfiroth 29-May-18 02:36
Re: Causeways And The Sun 317 Jon Ellison 28-May-18 21:37
Re: Causeways And The Sun 310 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 22:29
Re: Causeways And The Sun 295 Steve Clayton 28-May-18 23:09
Re: Causeways And The Sun 351 Jon Ellison 28-May-18 23:58
Re: Causeways And The Sun 312 Sirfiroth 29-May-18 02:23
Re: Causeways And The Sun 353 Eddie Larry 29-May-18 04:07
Re: Causeways And The Sun 299 Origyptian 29-May-18 13:56
Re: Causeways And The Sun 344 Corpuscles 29-May-18 00:51
A Further Degree Of Difficulty 331 Barbelo 29-May-18 02:02
Re: Causeways or Sand? 357 Steve Clayton 29-May-18 04:56
Re: Causeways or Sand? 375 Corpuscles 29-May-18 07:31
Re: Causeways or Sand? 354 Jon Ellison 29-May-18 09:05
Re: Causeways or Sand? 376 Steve Clayton 30-May-18 19:47
Re: Causeways or Sand? 394 Steve Clayton 03-Jun-18 01:06
Re: Causeways or Sand? 334 Origyptian 29-May-18 15:44
Re: Causeways or Sand? 346 Corpuscles 29-May-18 23:31
Re: Causeways or Sand? 352 Steve Clayton 29-May-18 23:59
Re: Causeways or Sand? 325 Corpuscles 30-May-18 03:08
Re: Causeways or Sand? 356 Steve Clayton 30-May-18 04:33
Re: Causeways And The Sun 377 Origyptian 27-May-18 11:58
Re: Causeways And The Sun 329 Barbelo 27-May-18 20:33
Re: Causeways And The Sun 333 Origyptian 28-May-18 01:27
Causeways And Geysers 321 Barbelo 28-May-18 03:09
Divide and Conquer 327 cladking 28-May-18 03:38
Re: Divide and Conquer 302 Origyptian 28-May-18 04:58
Re: Causeways And Geysers 324 Origyptian 28-May-18 04:26
Re: Causeways And Geysers 324 Barbelo 28-May-18 05:38
Re: Causeways And The Sun 303 Origyptian 27-May-18 11:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 345 Barbelo 27-May-18 21:29
Re: Causeways And The Sun 355 cladking 27-May-18 23:52
Re: Causeways And The Sun 345 Barbelo 27-May-18 23:59
Re: Causeways And The Sun 315 cladking 28-May-18 02:14
Re: Causeways And The Sun 322 Barbelo 28-May-18 03:16
Re: Causeways And The Sun 280 cladking 28-May-18 03:36
Re: Causeways And The Sun 312 Corpuscles 28-May-18 00:35
Re: Causeways And The Sun 300 cladking 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Causeways And The Sun 334 Origyptian 28-May-18 02:15
Re: Causeways And The Sun 376 DUNE 26-May-18 19:33
Re: Causeways And The Sun 333 Sirfiroth 26-May-18 22:05
Pyramids as Gnomons 382 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 20:28
Re: Causeways And The Sun 567 Corpuscles 27-May-18 22:36
Re: Causeways And The Sun 398 Barbelo 28-May-18 00:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 321 Corpuscles 28-May-18 01:26
Re: Causeways And The Sun 361 Barbelo 28-May-18 03:54
Re: Causeways And The Sun 326 Origyptian 28-May-18 02:31
Re: Causeways And The Sun 304 Barbelo 28-May-18 04:01
Re: Causeways And The Sun 326 Origyptian 28-May-18 05:02
Re: Causeways And The Sun 353 Barbelo 28-May-18 05:56
Re: Causeways And The Sun 323 Origyptian 28-May-18 11:39
Re: Causeways And The Sun 318 cladking 28-May-18 13:52
Re: Causeways And The Sun 323 kborissov 29-May-18 01:45
Re: Causeways And The Sun 307 cladking 29-May-18 13:14
Re: Causeways And The Sun 318 kborissov 30-May-18 02:14
Re: Causeways And The Sun 269 cladking 30-May-18 03:30
Re: Causeways And The Sun 349 Origyptian 29-May-18 14:10
Re: Causeways And The Sun 323 kborissov 29-May-18 21:58
Re: Causeways And The Sun 323 Origyptian 29-May-18 22:02
Re: Causeways And The Sun 349 kborissov 29-May-18 22:26
Re: Causeways And The Sun 348 cladking 01-Oct-18 03:27
Re: Causeways And The Sun 299 Corpuscles 01-Oct-18 05:04
Re: Causeways And The Sun 328 Barbelo 01-Oct-18 06:44
Re: Causeways And The Sun 264 cladking 01-Oct-18 13:07
Re: Causeways And The Sun 429 cladking 01-Oct-18 13:59
Re: Causeways And The Sun 366 Steve Clayton 31-May-18 18:10
Re: Causeways And The Sun 299 Barbelo 31-May-18 22:17
Re: Causeways And The Sun 334 Steve Clayton 01-Jun-18 01:11
Re: Causeways And The Sun 336 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 03:50
Re: Causeways And The Sun 346 Steve Clayton 01-Jun-18 15:43
Re: Causeways And The Sun 285 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 20:08
Re: Causeways And The Sun 368 Steve Clayton 01-Jun-18 20:55
Re: Causeways And The Sun 360 Barbelo 01-Jun-18 22:47
Re: Causeways And The Sun 356 Steve Clayton 01-Jun-18 23:10


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