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> Lynne Kelly’s work is really quite remarkable in
> this area and demonstrates techniques used to
> commit large amounts of knowledge to memory by
> multiple different indigenous cultures. By
> extension, pre-literate cultures around the globe
> probably used similar memory techniques to ensure
> important knowledge was remembered across
> generations.

Lynne Kelly's work and your perspective really are quite remarkable.

Modern people have this absurd notion that food just grew on trees. Wake up in the morning and step outside your cave and pick a few apples and a half dozen eggs and you were free to be superstitious and primitive all day long. But nature, reality, murdered almost every single individual who thought like this even before he could reproduce. Water, food, and shelter (+cloths) are nowhere and at no time so easily obtainable for more than several weeks. One must adapt to the changing environment or move on to greener pastures. The alternative is death. It requires knowledge to survive without grocery stores and cement plants not superstition and beliefs.

It was critical they first understand (theory) and then remember (words). The alternative is death. Only modern man can afford beliefs in natural or God given laws. Only modern man has the words to invent and communicate superstition. We live in a time that rewards stupidity, incompetence, and beliefs and those people who hold these as values reproduce. Even 100 years ago "intelligence" was not a significant factor in reproduction but now it actually tends to limit reproduction.

Modern man can sit in his easy chair and ponder the superstitions of ancient people but ancient people couldn't. They had work to do and homo omniscience to father.

> If you accept that knowledge was committed to
> memory in ceremony / performance and was retrieved
> through ceremony/performance as has been
> demonstrated unequivocally by Lynne in current day
> indigenous cultures then your attention must turn
> to how these ceremonies/ performances must appear
> to an observer who has knowledge of religious
> practices.
>
> Further, Lynne has demonstrated that many of the
> most important ceremonies are for restricted
> gatherings of initiated people. We don’t know
> when, why or for what purpose superstition was
> invented.

> I would posit the following theory
> around the why and what purpose:

> 1. the long term survival of the tribe was
> improved where the tribal knowledge was held by
> few rather than all people.

I doubt that anything was intentionally withheld. Rather there have always been segments of the population that aren't very clever or have poor memories. Some people are simply inclined to prefer to work with their hands or on specific tasks at which they excel.

I personally believe that children simply acquired as much Ancient Language as they were capable of acquiring among those with whom they interacted. A child with great proclivity for understanding and remembering would move up in society and those with lesser proclivity or other interests would move sideways. A few would show very limited ability to acquire language and would be laborers and helpers. Most people naturally gravitated to the work they were most suited.

There was no specialization of knowledge as there is today. Everybody knew "everything" but some were far more limited in knowledge. A few had a great deal of more specialized knowledge but this knowledge was still a part of the language.

> 2. Over time perhaps generations, the tribe would
> have seen some aspects of the memory performance
> of the elders/shaman and without the tools to
> unlock the knowledge, created their own
> interpretation.

Indeed.

But I believe this applies to cultures after 2000 BC because before this there was only one language.

> It is easy to see how this could
> happen with examples of a sick person presented to
> a Shaman. He always does a dance, sings a chant
> and proclaims a treatment. To the un initiated,
> the dance and the chant is the magic that causes
> healing not the extraction of knowledge. The
> elders would also have observed neighboring tribes
> that through war or natural causes lost their
> initiates and thereafter the tribe devolved into
> attempts to copy their elders/shamans performance
> techniques.

I like your insights here.



Now days photographic memories are typically invented by each individual at a young age. These inventions are highly variable and tailored to the individual inventor. But it hasn't always been this way. Memory used to be a big part of language acquisition and in part a result of the millions of neural pathways that begin appearing in two year olds. What we might call eidetic memory was an outgrowth of language and the means each individual used to think. Of course, memory capacity and ability to recall would vary even in individuals who thought in digital language.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 15-Sep-18 18:37 by cladking.

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Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 4337 cladking 16-Apr-18 02:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 486 Corpuscles 16-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 432 cladking 16-Apr-18 04:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 373 SallyA 18-Apr-18 23:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 311 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 319 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:05
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 290 SallyA 19-Apr-18 22:26
The Low Road and Science. 274 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 358 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:42
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 324 Warwick 16-Apr-18 15:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 310 cladking 16-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 310 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 296 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 289 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 286 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 310 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:35
Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 294 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 266 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 278 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:25
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! .. walkways 273 SallyA 19-Apr-18 00:13
Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 288 Manu 22-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 280 cladking 22-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 264 Manu 22-Apr-18 22:34
We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 282 cladking 22-Apr-18 23:49
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 291 Manu 23-Apr-18 01:00
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 259 cladking 23-Apr-18 03:24
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 325 Manu 23-Apr-18 04:07
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 268 cladking 23-Apr-18 13:56
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 333 Manu 23-Apr-18 16:48
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 303 cladking 23-Apr-18 18:14
OMG 317 Warwick 23-Apr-18 18:33
Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 288 eyeofhorus33 23-Apr-18 22:04
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 321 cladking 23-Apr-18 22:24
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 289 Manu 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 281 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:25
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 290 cladking 25-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 Manu 25-Apr-18 05:12
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 cladking 25-Apr-18 14:23
Zipf's Law 311 cladking 26-Apr-18 14:40
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 307 cladking 28-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 263 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:21
Heap's Law 280 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:29
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 182 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:31
A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 288 Barbelo 23-Apr-18 22:38
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 297 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:03
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 295 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:16
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 245 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 04:04
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 273 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 252 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 05:40
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 288 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 05:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 314 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 07:13
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 270 cladking 24-Apr-18 13:42
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 261 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 20:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 279 cladking 25-Apr-18 00:15
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 284 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:30
Breath of Life. 305 cladking 14-Oct-18 00:04
Re: Breath of Life. 272 cladking 14-Oct-18 14:02
Lesson now learnt? 272 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 03:44
The Rain in Splain... 282 cladking 24-Apr-18 04:03
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 191 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:34
No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 305 cladking 28-Apr-18 17:36
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 316 Manu 28-Apr-18 18:38
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 276 cladking 29-Apr-18 02:46
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 269 Manu 29-Apr-18 04:07
And Just Like That, Cladking's Whole Theory Was DEBUNKED 298 Barbelo 29-Apr-18 05:06
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 286 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:35
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 311 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:52
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 314 Manu 29-Apr-18 16:00
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 340 cladking 30-Apr-18 01:47
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 270 cladking 19-May-18 14:55
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 248 cladking 30-May-18 15:01
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 251 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 247 cladking 01-Jun-18 22:58
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 222 Warwick 03-Jun-18 20:24
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 228 Thanos5150 03-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 252 Warwick 04-Jun-18 20:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 293 cladking 04-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 244 cladking 03-Jun-18 22:57
They Simply Did Not Think! 307 cladking 30-Apr-18 17:45
Re: They Simply Did Not Think! 336 cladking 30-Apr-18 18:10
Pyramid Text 534 Pepi I original and translation 271 Manu 22-Apr-18 21:58
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 281 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 316 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 274 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 275 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:32
Common Sense. 289 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Common Sense. 286 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:38
Re: Common Sense. 306 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:45
Re: Common Sense. 270 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:42
Re: Common Sense. 267 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:02
Re: Common Sense. 257 Warwick 17-Apr-18 15:52
Re: Common Sense. 298 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:13
Re: Common Sense. 265 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Common Sense. 290 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:52
Re: Common Sense. 294 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Common Sense. 290 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:45
Amazing 279 Warwick 19-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Amazing 255 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Common Sense . . . upgraded . . .??? . ? . ? . _____ 273 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:52
Re: Common Sense. 257 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:19
Egyptoilogy. 279 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Egyptoilogy. 291 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:21
Re: Egyptoilogy. 275 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:33
Re: Egyptoilogy. 273 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:48
You're definitely losing it. n/t 270 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:26
Re: You're definitely losing it. n/t 292 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 309 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 272 SallyA 19-Apr-18 01:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 264 cladking 19-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 250 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 269 SallyA 19-Apr-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 271 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 270 SallyA 19-Apr-18 23:40
Re: Proof Ancient People ancient language & brain harmonics . . . additive viewpoints . . 271 SallyA 02-May-18 19:29
Ancient People, ancient language & perspective . . EIGENSTATES 305 SallyA 02-May-18 19:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 290 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:29
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 256 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 250 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 254 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 289 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 323 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 23:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 268 Warwick 17-Apr-18 16:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 289 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 17:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 260 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 275 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 19:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 294 cladking 18-Apr-18 21:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 21:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:01
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 22:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 109 cladking 09-Jan-19 18:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 270 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 252 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 271 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 257 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:36
Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 279 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:12
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 242 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:57
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 288 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 14:15
Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 278 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 273 Warwick 17-Apr-18 18:53
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 290 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:19
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 271 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:31
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 276 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:46
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 276 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 302 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:00
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. . . thermal anomoly ? link please .. NM 298 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:02
Your post, translated ... 288 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:18
Re: Your post, translated ... 351 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Your post, translated ... 270 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:46
Re: Your post, translated ... 281 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:59
Re: Your post, translated ... 287 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 20:08
Re: Your post, translated ... 266 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 310 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:48
Re: Your post, translated ... 290 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:53
Re: Your post, translated ... 302 atugablish 17-Apr-18 23:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 273 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 00:01
Re: Your post, translated ... 270 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 296 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:02
Enter FEAR 275 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:10
Re: Your post, translated ... 270 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 267 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 255 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:04
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 281 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... 292 cladking 19-Apr-18 02:15
Re: Your post, translated ... 244 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:17
Your post is mere deflection... 282 cladking 21-Apr-18 15:22
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 274 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:28
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 268 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:45
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 286 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 259 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:50
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 266 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:11
Re: Your post, translated ... 276 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Your post, translated ... 292 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:54
Re: Your post, translated ... 290 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:14
Re: Your post, translated ... 268 SallyA 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 291 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Your post, translated ... 279 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:36
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:56
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 313 SallyA 18-Apr-18 06:27
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 254 cladking 18-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 268 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:17
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 279 cladking 19-Apr-18 03:40
A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 272 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 04:00
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 309 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:18
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 381 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 05:11
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 291 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:15
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 263 SallyA 18-Apr-18 22:32
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 268 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:20
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 249 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 265 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:01
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . lynx .. a smaller, tail-less cat with tufted ears 262 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:57
Be my guest ... 301 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:47
Re: Be my guest ... 269 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Be my guest ... 304 cladking 17-Apr-18 22:30
Re: Be my guest ... 280 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 17:24
Re: Be my guest ... 247 cladking 18-Apr-18 17:48
Re: Be my guest ... 272 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Be my guest ... 265 cladking 18-Apr-18 19:07
Read this thread. 253 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:02
Re: Be my guest ... 283 Manu 17-Apr-18 22:53
Re: Be my guest ... 296 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 00:00
Re: Be my guest ... 270 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:35
Re: Be my guest ... 281 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 01:22
Re: Be my guest ... 253 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:40
Re: Be my guest ... 270 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 03:15
Re: Be my guest ... 284 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Be my guest ... 288 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 04:59
Re: Be my guest ... 271 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:51
Re: Be my guest ... 289 Warwick 18-Apr-18 15:59
Re: Be my guest ... 267 cladking 18-Apr-18 16:20
Re: Be my guest ... 274 Warwick 19-Apr-18 15:13
Re: Be my guest ... 263 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 20:10
Re: Be my guest ... 261 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:40
Re: Be my guest ... 269 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:27
Re: Be my guest ... 271 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 02:28
Re: Be my guest ... 312 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:43
Re: Be my guest ... 270 sfbey 18-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Be my guest ... 286 cladking 18-Apr-18 02:07
Re: Be my guest ... 267 Manu 18-Apr-18 17:53
Re: Be my guest ... 255 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Be my guest ... 276 cladking 19-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 323 Manu 18-Apr-18 00:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 261 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 250 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:19
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 257 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:42
Rephrasing of Proof. 303 cladking 18-Apr-18 14:45
They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 301 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:25
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 285 SallyA 20-Apr-18 02:16
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 264 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 254 SallyA 20-Apr-18 18:18
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 260 cladking 20-Apr-18 19:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 248 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:08
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 253 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:49
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 283 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:37
Re: They Simply, REALLY understood sound, but heiroglyphs were visual . . . Harmonics & Heiroglyphs 255 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:06
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. . .INFO_GRAPHIC 234 SallyA 22-Apr-18 01:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 105 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:08
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 271 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 SallyA 18-Apr-18 03:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 268 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:20
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 267 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 14:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 247 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:01
Poor Bumpkin. 279 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:12
Re: Poor Bumpkin. 257 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:04
Cue Hanlune. 298 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:11
Re: Cue Hanlune. 290 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:27
Proven By Every Word in the Pyramid Texts! 271 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 271 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 264 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:27
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 277 Eddie Larry 19-Apr-18 21:43
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 282 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:47
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 275 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 256 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:55
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 272 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:44
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 265 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:17
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 266 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:36
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 277 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:37
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 288 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:05
Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 305 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 00:54
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 276 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:54
Stop it! 271 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Stop it! 266 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:07
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 263 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:04
Am I Mad Enough, Professor? 290 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 21:18
Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 272 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:20
Re: Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 308 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 23:04
1000's of More Words Unattested. 263 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:59
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 318 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:24
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 279 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:19
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 291 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:02
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 295 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:58
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 293 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:07
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 340 cladking 22-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 278 Thunderbird 25-Apr-18 15:09
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 277 cladking 25-Apr-18 22:02
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 290 Thunderbird 26-Apr-18 00:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 268 cladking 04-May-18 16:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 299 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 16:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 256 cladking 04-May-18 20:41
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 296 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 23:43
Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 279 cladking 05-May-18 01:22
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 294 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 02:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 235 cladking 05-May-18 14:02
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 284 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 14:31
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 276 cladking 06-May-18 00:50
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 252 Eddie Larry 06-May-18 13:35
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 251 cladking 06-May-18 13:47
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 237 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:36
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 259 cladking 08-May-18 02:08
Wordsof Superstition 288 Warwick 08-May-18 16:50
Re: Wordsof Superstition 260 cladking 08-May-18 19:29
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 266 Eddie Larry 08-May-18 19:55
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 265 cladking 08-May-18 20:25
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 283 Warwick 08-May-18 20:34
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 238 cladking 08-May-18 21:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 269 cladking 06-May-18 13:37
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 286 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:39
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 339 cladking 08-May-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 220 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:11
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 228 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 222 engbren 10-Sep-18 05:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 200 cladking 11-Sep-18 01:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 235 engbren 11-Sep-18 05:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 208 cladking 11-Sep-18 19:12
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 cladking 12-Sep-18 02:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 229 D-Archer 09-Sep-18 10:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 195 nemomen 12-Sep-18 01:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 238 cladking 12-Sep-18 01:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 221 Hanslune 14-Sep-18 00:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 203 engbren 15-Sep-18 15:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 211 Manu 15-Sep-18 17:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 222 Hanslune 16-Sep-18 05:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 201 Manu 20-Sep-18 04:43
Insightful 198 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 06:37
Re: Insightful 177 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:32
Re: Insightful 188 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Insightful 176 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:10
Re: Insightful 187 Barbelo 21-Sep-18 20:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 187 cladking 20-Sep-18 14:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 215 engbren 16-Sep-18 14:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 179 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 223 cladking 15-Sep-18 18:36
So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 308 cladking 14-Sep-18 01:40
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 175 cladking 18-Sep-18 14:15
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 190 DavidK 18-Sep-18 14:34
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 195 cladking 18-Sep-18 19:05
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 190 cladking 19-Sep-18 02:57
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 221 cladking 19-Sep-18 03:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 108 cladking 08-Jan-19 20:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 87 cladking 11-Jan-19 16:19
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 85 Warwick 11-Jan-19 21:23
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 130 cladking 11-Jan-19 22:15
I stand corrected.. 84 Warwick 14-Jan-19 19:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 118 cladking 17-Jan-19 01:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 208 cladking 11-Oct-18 14:29
Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 237 cladking 12-Oct-18 16:56
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 105 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:21
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 109 Brian Patterson 29-Dec-18 04:39
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 134 cladking 29-Dec-18 05:01
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 100 Warwick 02-Jan-19 04:28
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 102 cladking 02-Jan-19 05:13
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 88 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:54
What Hate? 99 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:59
Re: What Hate? 86 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:40
Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 105 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:00
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 80 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:19
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 83 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:20
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 100 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:36
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 89 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:43
I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 81 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:49
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 92 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:59
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 96 Warwick 02-Jan-19 20:14
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 101 cladking 02-Jan-19 21:12
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 109 Warwick 03-Jan-19 06:16
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 78 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:10
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 105 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 211 cladking 19-Sep-18 14:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 183 Corpuscles 19-Sep-18 23:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 188 cladking 20-Sep-18 01:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 192 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 218 cladking 22-Sep-18 00:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 175 Manu 22-Sep-18 14:13
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 198 cladking 22-Sep-18 17:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 223 Manu 23-Sep-18 13:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 187 cladking 23-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 182 DUNE 23-Sep-18 14:38
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 183 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:31
Lever Holes 176 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:00
Re: Lever Holes 164 Manu 23-Sep-18 21:30
Re: Lever Holes 178 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 179 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:37
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 189 DUNE 23-Sep-18 16:57
Basalt Platform 178 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 20:54
Re: Basalt Platform 197 DUNE 23-Sep-18 22:41
Re: Basalt Platform 202 Barbelo 24-Sep-18 02:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 241 cladking 24-Sep-18 14:05
An Advanced State 217 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 01:32
Re: An Advanced State 200 Corpuscles 20-Sep-18 02:11
How Much Proof is Needed? 211 cladking 29-Sep-18 02:49
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 189 eyeofhorus33 29-Sep-18 11:30
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 204 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:00
What you will answer every single question put to you? 169 Hanslune 28-Nov-18 06:21
Brand New Nonsense! 282 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:15
Your very special brand of nonsense! 206 eyeofhorus33 04-Oct-18 21:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 194 cladking 05-Oct-18 02:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 200 eyeofhorus33 05-Oct-18 13:20
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 239 cladking 05-Oct-18 14:12
A new claim by Cladking we await the evidence...... 182 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 05:38
This thread is the evidence. 169 cladking 06-Oct-18 13:18
Your opinion isn't evidence 159 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 15:53
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence 163 cladking 06-Oct-18 16:21
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 162 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 17:38
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 162 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:13
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 161 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:23
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 159 cladking 06-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 160 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:42
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 198 cladking 06-Oct-18 22:28
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 157 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:23
Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 162 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:27
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 185 cladking 06-Oct-18 19:53
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 173 eyeofhorus33 06-Oct-18 21:12
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 172 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:13
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 233 cladking 06-Oct-18 21:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 164 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:39
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 146 cladking 07-Oct-18 15:45
Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 175 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 15:55
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 160 cladking 07-Oct-18 21:54
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 175 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 23:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 168 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 177 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 02:08
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 177 Corpuscles 08-Oct-18 05:10
Cladking is simply not worth talking too 171 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 06:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 204 cladking 08-Oct-18 13:52
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 144 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:47
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 168 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 159 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:33
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 159 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 22:58
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 164 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:53
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 156 Corpuscles 09-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 218 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:28
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 169 cladking 07-Oct-18 16:03
Cladking makes excuses for not publishing his research 198 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 17:47
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 196 eyeofhorus33 09-Oct-18 18:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 192 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:17
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 201 cladking 10-Oct-18 13:58
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 186 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:31
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 208 cladking 07-Oct-18 14:55
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 198 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 115 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 79 cladking 08-Feb-19 15:32
End of Thread 79 Warwick 08-Feb-19 19:40
Re: End of Thread 71 cladking 08-Feb-19 21:25
Re: End of Thread 75 Warwick 09-Feb-19 03:20
Re: End of Thread 166 cladking 13-Feb-19 03:16


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