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Manu Wrote:
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> From what I understand of your method I cannot
> conclude that parsing the text is any more
> misleading than reading Mercer's translation and
> developing a context which compels one to read the
> words Shu, Thoth, and Wadjet the way you are
> reading them. If this were based on your
> interpretation versus mine, I'd have to conceded
> that there is some chance that you might be right,
> but the problem is that you made a mistake
> regardless in what methodological universe you
> want to operate. You did not take into account the
> determinative because you did not look at the
> original text. Had you looked at the determinative
> you would not have read this as rising begetter,
> but immediately realized that jwkhet.wtt refers to
> the goddess Wadjet and the Uraeus.

I knew it referred to the uraeus and the "goddess" wadjet even before I knew what the determinative was. There are other things I know that don't appear in the PT because I understand the writing. For instance "uraeus" and "iusaas" are essentially the same thing! Well, kindda. The ben ben is the accumulation on the primeval mound and the instrument through which atum created shu and tefnut. "Iusaas" was the hole in the ben ben in which atum/ osiris stood and the wadjet filled this hole when atum flagged.

You say the methodology is unsound but the reality is every word means what the speaker thinks it means. He will use it consistently the same way over and over whether he uses it correctly or not. It doesn't matter because each person has his own definition for each word. By listening to how a word is used it is simple enough to deduce what the speaker believes it mean;

I looked through the booklet.
The sun shone on the other side of the booklet.
A bird perched on the booklet ledge.
It's too cold to open the booklet.
A stone could break the booklet.
In the winter frost forms on the inside of the booklet.

After a while anyone can see that "booklet" really means "window".

This is all I've done. I solved these words in order of the best defined ones to the worst. Finding "shu" means "upward", "ascension", "inertia", etc is far easier than finding "I3.t-wt.t" and it is necessary to first know this in order to solve more complex and less well defined terms.

> Even a digital
> structure does not allow you to brush over a
> symbol if it's there.

I'm brushing over nothing.

> This mistake was not a
> result of parsing versus contextualizing....you
> never had a chance to get it right. It was a
> mistake of interpreting a translation instead of
> original script, something that you have stated
> has to be done from scratch, but did not follow
> yourself.

Translators didn't understand this language because it shares the EXACT SAME vocabulary as the language of the book of the dead that was already understood. They translated the words "right" but they missed the meaning. I can see the meaning because I have modeled the formatting. The language is not formatted like our language.

> Reconstructing your effort I think this must have
> started with the insight that fifth dynasty
> pyramid builders wanted to record their methods
> with the Pyramid texts, a much more plausible
> intent (to your thinking that is) than simply
> listing a series of magic formulas as can be found
> in the later Book of the Dead.

The "book of the dead" is the problem. It was written by people who were emulating and trying to copy their scientific ancestors but they had no science so their efforts were wholly confused. Egyptologists found the Pyramid Texts and confused it in exactly the same way using exactly the same vocabulary.

> You had previously
> tackled the engineering problem and concluded that
> ramps could not have been used.

Yes. A lifetime of experience was sufficient to tell me ramps were an impossibility. Imagine my surprise when I discovered there's no evidence that ramps were used despite the oft repeated mantra that "they mustta used ramps".

Concurrently with reverse engineering the pyramids and solving the PT I was able to use the data and evidence to "prove" they did not use ramps. Ramps are debunked.

> Either you thought
> of the funnicular system first and then verified
> it as per your reading of the pyramid texts (ie
> you read that into the texts) or you read the
> texts and then derived that meaning. You may have
> been subject to confirmation bias.

My first thought (within ten seconds of seeing ramps weren't used) was that they mustta used the weight of falling water.

> There is one insight you have with which I agree:
> That the pyramid is a representation of something.
> I think it is the central body of Osiris.

Yes. In a very real way.

But everything to the ancients was like this. The pyramid also represented the primeval mound, the dead king, protection, horus, horus, and even (you guessed it) the eye of horus. Of course it was also set, tefnut, osiris, isis, etc etc etc.

> Looking
> at Orion, you can see a pyramid, no stretch needed
> there. By virtue of the fact that the dead king
> was made to be an Osiris, and the Pyramid Texts
> leave no doubt of it, the inspiration for the
> Pyramid Age could in fact be to recreate the Ka of
> the King as a stony monument. I think that part of
> your theory has value. I also think your proposed
> pyramid building methodology has possible value
> even if the Pyramid Texts can be shown not to be
> about that.

Sure. I know I can be all wrong or only partly right.

But what are the odds I solved this by coming to understand the PT and that understanding is wrong?

Let's just say if there was a geyser at Giza then I know it's name was "atum", was called a "duat", and off gassed I3.t-wt.t.

> Disproving the PT part of your theory
> does not disprove the method you propose. It only
> means you have to look elsewhere for proof. Not
> all is lost and a lot is still gained.

If they'd get off the dime this could be proven or disproven in mere weeks. They could have an answer for how it was done no matter who's right and who's wrong.

But the powers that be are scared of the pyramid and nobody really cares. Anyone who really cares would be screaming but Egyptology still gets support even though ramps are debunked and now it sure looks like ancient magic and superstition are as well.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 4342 cladking 16-Apr-18 02:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 488 Corpuscles 16-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 434 cladking 16-Apr-18 04:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 374 SallyA 18-Apr-18 23:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 306 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 313 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 322 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:05
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 292 SallyA 19-Apr-18 22:26
The Low Road and Science. 276 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 360 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:42
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 320 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 326 Warwick 16-Apr-18 15:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 311 cladking 16-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 311 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 297 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 291 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 281 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 287 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 311 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:35
Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 295 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 268 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:25
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! .. walkways 275 SallyA 19-Apr-18 00:13
Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 289 Manu 22-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 281 cladking 22-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 265 Manu 22-Apr-18 22:34
We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 283 cladking 22-Apr-18 23:49
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 292 Manu 23-Apr-18 01:00
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 260 cladking 23-Apr-18 03:24
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 327 Manu 23-Apr-18 04:07
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 269 cladking 23-Apr-18 13:56
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 334 Manu 23-Apr-18 16:48
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 304 cladking 23-Apr-18 18:14
OMG 318 Warwick 23-Apr-18 18:33
Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 289 eyeofhorus33 23-Apr-18 22:04
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 322 cladking 23-Apr-18 22:24
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 290 Manu 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 283 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:25
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 292 cladking 25-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 297 Manu 25-Apr-18 05:12
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 297 cladking 25-Apr-18 14:23
Zipf's Law 313 cladking 26-Apr-18 14:40
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 308 cladking 28-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 264 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:21
Heap's Law 281 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:29
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 185 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:31
A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 289 Barbelo 23-Apr-18 22:38
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 298 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:03
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 296 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:16
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 247 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 04:04
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 274 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 253 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 05:40
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 290 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 05:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 315 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 07:13
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 271 cladking 24-Apr-18 13:42
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 262 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 20:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 280 cladking 25-Apr-18 00:15
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 285 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:30
Breath of Life. 306 cladking 14-Oct-18 00:04
Re: Breath of Life. 273 cladking 14-Oct-18 14:02
Lesson now learnt? 274 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 03:44
The Rain in Splain... 284 cladking 24-Apr-18 04:03
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 194 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:34
No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 308 cladking 28-Apr-18 17:36
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 318 Manu 28-Apr-18 18:38
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 277 cladking 29-Apr-18 02:46
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 270 Manu 29-Apr-18 04:07
And Just Like That, Cladking's Whole Theory Was DEBUNKED 301 Barbelo 29-Apr-18 05:06
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 287 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:35
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 312 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:52
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 315 Manu 29-Apr-18 16:00
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 341 cladking 30-Apr-18 01:47
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 271 cladking 19-May-18 14:55
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 249 cladking 30-May-18 15:01
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 253 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 248 cladking 01-Jun-18 22:58
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 223 Warwick 03-Jun-18 20:24
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 230 Thanos5150 03-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 254 Warwick 04-Jun-18 20:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 294 cladking 04-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 245 cladking 03-Jun-18 22:57
They Simply Did Not Think! 308 cladking 30-Apr-18 17:45
Re: They Simply Did Not Think! 338 cladking 30-Apr-18 18:10
Pyramid Text 534 Pepi I original and translation 272 Manu 22-Apr-18 21:58
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 320 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 270 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:32
Common Sense. 291 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Common Sense. 287 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:38
Re: Common Sense. 307 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:45
Re: Common Sense. 271 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:42
Re: Common Sense. 271 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:02
Re: Common Sense. 258 Warwick 17-Apr-18 15:52
Re: Common Sense. 299 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:13
Re: Common Sense. 267 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Common Sense. 291 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:52
Re: Common Sense. 295 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Common Sense. 292 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:45
Amazing 280 Warwick 19-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Amazing 257 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Common Sense . . . upgraded . . .??? . ? . ? . _____ 274 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:52
Re: Common Sense. 259 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:19
Egyptoilogy. 281 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Egyptoilogy. 293 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:21
Re: Egyptoilogy. 276 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:33
Re: Egyptoilogy. 274 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:48
You're definitely losing it. n/t 271 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:26
Re: You're definitely losing it. n/t 294 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 294 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 310 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 SallyA 19-Apr-18 01:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 cladking 19-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 253 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 270 SallyA 19-Apr-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 272 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 272 SallyA 19-Apr-18 23:40
Re: Proof Ancient People ancient language & brain harmonics . . . additive viewpoints . . 272 SallyA 02-May-18 19:29
Ancient People, ancient language & perspective . . EIGENSTATES 307 SallyA 02-May-18 19:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 291 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 295 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:29
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 285 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 257 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 284 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 294 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 284 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 264 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 251 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 268 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 256 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 291 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 265 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 324 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 23:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 Warwick 17-Apr-18 16:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 290 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 17:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 261 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 19:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 296 cladking 18-Apr-18 21:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 268 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 21:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:01
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 294 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 22:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 110 cladking 09-Jan-19 18:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 271 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 254 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 272 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:36
Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 281 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:12
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 243 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:57
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 290 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 14:15
Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 279 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 275 Warwick 17-Apr-18 18:53
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 292 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:19
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 273 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:31
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 277 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:46
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 277 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 303 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:00
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. . . thermal anomoly ? link please .. NM 300 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:02
Your post, translated ... 289 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:18
Re: Your post, translated ... 352 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Your post, translated ... 271 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:46
Re: Your post, translated ... 283 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:59
Re: Your post, translated ... 289 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 20:08
Re: Your post, translated ... 268 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 312 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:48
Re: Your post, translated ... 292 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:53
Re: Your post, translated ... 306 atugablish 17-Apr-18 23:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 275 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 00:01
Re: Your post, translated ... 272 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 298 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:02
Enter FEAR 276 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:10
Re: Your post, translated ... 271 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 268 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 256 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:04
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 283 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... 294 cladking 19-Apr-18 02:15
Re: Your post, translated ... 246 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:17
Your post is mere deflection... 284 cladking 21-Apr-18 15:22
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 276 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:28
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 270 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:45
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 288 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 261 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:50
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 268 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:11
Re: Your post, translated ... 277 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Your post, translated ... 296 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:54
Re: Your post, translated ... 292 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:14
Re: Your post, translated ... 270 SallyA 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 292 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:36
Re: Your post, translated ... 282 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:56
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 315 SallyA 18-Apr-18 06:27
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 257 cladking 18-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 269 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:17
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 281 cladking 19-Apr-18 03:40
A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 274 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 04:00
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 311 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:18
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 382 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 05:11
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 292 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:15
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 265 SallyA 18-Apr-18 22:32
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 269 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:20
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 250 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 267 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:01
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . lynx .. a smaller, tail-less cat with tufted ears 263 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:57
Be my guest ... 302 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:47
Re: Be my guest ... 271 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Be my guest ... 306 cladking 17-Apr-18 22:30
Re: Be my guest ... 283 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 17:24
Re: Be my guest ... 249 cladking 18-Apr-18 17:48
Re: Be my guest ... 273 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Be my guest ... 267 cladking 18-Apr-18 19:07
Read this thread. 255 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:02
Re: Be my guest ... 284 Manu 17-Apr-18 22:53
Re: Be my guest ... 297 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 00:00
Re: Be my guest ... 271 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:35
Re: Be my guest ... 282 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 01:22
Re: Be my guest ... 254 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:40
Re: Be my guest ... 271 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 03:15
Re: Be my guest ... 285 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Be my guest ... 289 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 04:59
Re: Be my guest ... 273 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:51
Re: Be my guest ... 290 Warwick 18-Apr-18 15:59
Re: Be my guest ... 268 cladking 18-Apr-18 16:20
Re: Be my guest ... 275 Warwick 19-Apr-18 15:13
Re: Be my guest ... 266 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 20:10
Re: Be my guest ... 262 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:40
Re: Be my guest ... 270 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:27
Re: Be my guest ... 273 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 02:28
Re: Be my guest ... 313 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:43
Re: Be my guest ... 271 sfbey 18-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Be my guest ... 287 cladking 18-Apr-18 02:07
Re: Be my guest ... 268 Manu 18-Apr-18 17:53
Re: Be my guest ... 256 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Be my guest ... 278 cladking 19-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 324 Manu 18-Apr-18 00:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 262 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 251 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 274 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 267 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:19
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 260 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 281 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:42
Rephrasing of Proof. 305 cladking 18-Apr-18 14:45
They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 303 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:25
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 287 SallyA 20-Apr-18 02:16
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 265 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 255 SallyA 20-Apr-18 18:18
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 261 cladking 20-Apr-18 19:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 249 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:08
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 255 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:49
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 284 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:37
Re: They Simply, REALLY understood sound, but heiroglyphs were visual . . . Harmonics & Heiroglyphs 256 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:06
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. . .INFO_GRAPHIC 235 SallyA 22-Apr-18 01:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 107 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:08
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 274 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 278 SallyA 18-Apr-18 03:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 270 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:20
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 275 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 14:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 250 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:01
Poor Bumpkin. 281 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:12
Re: Poor Bumpkin. 260 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:04
Cue Hanlune. 299 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:11
Re: Cue Hanlune. 291 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:27
Proven By Every Word in the Pyramid Texts! 272 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 273 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 265 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:27
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 279 Eddie Larry 19-Apr-18 21:43
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 284 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:47
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 276 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 258 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:55
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 274 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:44
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 266 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:17
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 267 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:36
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 278 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:37
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 289 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:05
Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 306 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 00:54
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 278 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:54
Stop it! 274 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Stop it! 268 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:07
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 266 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:04
Am I Mad Enough, Professor? 291 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 21:18
Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 275 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:20
Re: Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 309 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 23:04
1000's of More Words Unattested. 264 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:59
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 320 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:24
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 280 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:19
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 292 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:02
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 297 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:58
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 295 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:07
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 341 cladking 22-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 280 Thunderbird 25-Apr-18 15:09
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 280 cladking 25-Apr-18 22:02
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 291 Thunderbird 26-Apr-18 00:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 cladking 04-May-18 16:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 300 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 16:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 cladking 04-May-18 20:41
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 297 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 23:43
Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 280 cladking 05-May-18 01:22
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 297 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 02:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 237 cladking 05-May-18 14:02
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 285 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 14:31
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 277 cladking 06-May-18 00:50
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 253 Eddie Larry 06-May-18 13:35
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 253 cladking 06-May-18 13:47
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 238 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:36
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 261 cladking 08-May-18 02:08
Wordsof Superstition 290 Warwick 08-May-18 16:50
Re: Wordsof Superstition 261 cladking 08-May-18 19:29
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 268 Eddie Larry 08-May-18 19:55
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 267 cladking 08-May-18 20:25
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 286 Warwick 08-May-18 20:34
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 240 cladking 08-May-18 21:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 270 cladking 06-May-18 13:37
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 288 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:39
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 340 cladking 08-May-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 222 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:11
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 230 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 225 engbren 10-Sep-18 05:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 201 cladking 11-Sep-18 01:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 236 engbren 11-Sep-18 05:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 210 cladking 11-Sep-18 19:12
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 260 cladking 12-Sep-18 02:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 230 D-Archer 09-Sep-18 10:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 196 nemomen 12-Sep-18 01:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 240 cladking 12-Sep-18 01:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 224 Hanslune 14-Sep-18 00:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 204 engbren 15-Sep-18 15:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 214 Manu 15-Sep-18 17:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 223 Hanslune 16-Sep-18 05:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 202 Manu 20-Sep-18 04:43
Insightful 200 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 06:37
Re: Insightful 179 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:32
Re: Insightful 191 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Insightful 177 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:10
Re: Insightful 189 Barbelo 21-Sep-18 20:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 188 cladking 20-Sep-18 14:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 217 engbren 16-Sep-18 14:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 181 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 225 cladking 15-Sep-18 18:36
So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 309 cladking 14-Sep-18 01:40
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 176 cladking 18-Sep-18 14:15
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 192 DavidK 18-Sep-18 14:34
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 197 cladking 18-Sep-18 19:05
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 193 cladking 19-Sep-18 02:57
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 224 cladking 19-Sep-18 03:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 109 cladking 08-Jan-19 20:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 88 cladking 11-Jan-19 16:19
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 87 Warwick 11-Jan-19 21:23
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 132 cladking 11-Jan-19 22:15
I stand corrected.. 86 Warwick 14-Jan-19 19:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 119 cladking 17-Jan-19 01:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 210 cladking 11-Oct-18 14:29
Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 238 cladking 12-Oct-18 16:56
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 108 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:21
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 112 Brian Patterson 29-Dec-18 04:39
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 137 cladking 29-Dec-18 05:01
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 101 Warwick 02-Jan-19 04:28
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 104 cladking 02-Jan-19 05:13
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 90 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:54
What Hate? 101 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:59
Re: What Hate? 88 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:40
Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 106 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:00
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 83 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:19
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 85 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:20
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 102 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:36
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 91 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:43
I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 82 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:49
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 93 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:59
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 97 Warwick 02-Jan-19 20:14
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 104 cladking 02-Jan-19 21:12
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 111 Warwick 03-Jan-19 06:16
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 79 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:10
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 107 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 213 cladking 19-Sep-18 14:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 185 Corpuscles 19-Sep-18 23:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 190 cladking 20-Sep-18 01:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 194 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 220 cladking 22-Sep-18 00:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 177 Manu 22-Sep-18 14:13
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 200 cladking 22-Sep-18 17:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 224 Manu 23-Sep-18 13:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 189 cladking 23-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 183 DUNE 23-Sep-18 14:38
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 185 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:31
Lever Holes 179 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:00
Re: Lever Holes 166 Manu 23-Sep-18 21:30
Re: Lever Holes 181 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 180 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:37
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 191 DUNE 23-Sep-18 16:57
Basalt Platform 180 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 20:54
Re: Basalt Platform 198 DUNE 23-Sep-18 22:41
Re: Basalt Platform 204 Barbelo 24-Sep-18 02:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 242 cladking 24-Sep-18 14:05
An Advanced State 219 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 01:32
Re: An Advanced State 201 Corpuscles 20-Sep-18 02:11
How Much Proof is Needed? 213 cladking 29-Sep-18 02:49
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 190 eyeofhorus33 29-Sep-18 11:30
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 207 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:00
What you will answer every single question put to you? 171 Hanslune 28-Nov-18 06:21
Brand New Nonsense! 284 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:15
Your very special brand of nonsense! 207 eyeofhorus33 04-Oct-18 21:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 197 cladking 05-Oct-18 02:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 202 eyeofhorus33 05-Oct-18 13:20
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 242 cladking 05-Oct-18 14:12
A new claim by Cladking we await the evidence...... 184 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 05:38
This thread is the evidence. 171 cladking 06-Oct-18 13:18
Your opinion isn't evidence 162 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 15:53
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence 166 cladking 06-Oct-18 16:21
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 164 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 17:38
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 163 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:13
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 164 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:23
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 161 cladking 06-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 162 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:42
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 201 cladking 06-Oct-18 22:28
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 159 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:23
Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 163 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:27
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 186 cladking 06-Oct-18 19:53
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 174 eyeofhorus33 06-Oct-18 21:12
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 174 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:13
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 234 cladking 06-Oct-18 21:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 166 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:39
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 149 cladking 07-Oct-18 15:45
Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 178 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 15:55
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 162 cladking 07-Oct-18 21:54
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 178 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 23:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 171 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 179 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 02:08
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 179 Corpuscles 08-Oct-18 05:10
Cladking is simply not worth talking too 174 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 06:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 206 cladking 08-Oct-18 13:52
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 146 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:47
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 170 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 161 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:33
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 162 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 22:58
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 165 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:53
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 159 Corpuscles 09-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 221 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:28
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 171 cladking 07-Oct-18 16:03
Cladking makes excuses for not publishing his research 200 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 17:47
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 198 eyeofhorus33 09-Oct-18 18:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 193 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:17
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 203 cladking 10-Oct-18 13:58
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 189 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:31
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 209 cladking 07-Oct-18 14:55
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 201 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 117 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 80 cladking 08-Feb-19 15:32
End of Thread 80 Warwick 08-Feb-19 19:40
Re: End of Thread 72 cladking 08-Feb-19 21:25
Re: End of Thread 76 Warwick 09-Feb-19 03:20
Re: End of Thread 167 cladking 13-Feb-19 03:16


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