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Referring to these two excerpts from your post...


> cladking Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Animals and the great pyramid builders
> > couldn't afford to "think" the coast was clear
> so
> > they couldn't "think" the coast was clear and
> > couldn't express the concept that in their
> > "opinion" it was "probably" safe to go forth.
>
> Not only couldn't they afford to "think", they
> wouldn't understand the concept of "thinking".
> They needed no word for "thought" because there is
> no referent for it in a mind using metaphysical
> language as its operating system!


....

> 1271a. If Thot comes in this his evil coming;
> 1271b. do not open to him thine arms; that which
> is said to him is his name of "thou hast no
> mother."

>
> We don't think like ancient people so when we
> "read" their words it all looks like incantation,
> religion, and magic. There were no such things
> and we don't understand because we parse their
> words which can't be parsed and translate a
> language that can't be expressed in our words.
> There are no "maybe's" about this. Egyptologists
> don't think like Egyptians.


Here is the original text from Pepi I's pyramid's corridor from where this particular inscription (part of PT 534) comes from.

[References: "The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts" by James P. Allen, 2005; The Pyramid Texts
Translation by Samuel A. B. Mercer
; Thesaurus Linguae Aegyptiae)


Your thesis based on how you read the Pyramid Texts (Mercer) is that that the ancient Egyptians had no self-awareness allowing them to conceptualize their own process of language expression. You are basically saying that if you cannot objectify yourself, you cannot know your process and that means the language cannot incorporate elements which differentiate between hypotheticals and actuals. Conception equals execution. Modern man, on the other hand (in your thesis that is), has gained such awareness. This allows modern man to "test" ideas without acting on them, believing, hypothesizing, etc. Egyptologists are translating hieroglyphic as if there is a two-step process of conceptualizing and then either acting or not acting...ie as if there is a thought gate.

I think I understand what it is that you are proposing, but you cannot put this thesis to a test the way you are doing it as far as I am concerned. My intent here is not to agree or disagree with you at this stage, because you have not even made your case. I have nothing to go on. Please understand, Cladking, you have not submitted into the record of this forum one piece of acceptable evidence to support your these in my opinion. That certainly does not mean your thesis is wrong. It means that you can propose until the end of days and no reasonable person will be able to agree and so they will default to disagreeing which is what you're seeing on this thread. You have to use the original text and show unequivocal proof that it cannot be parsed, that it only makes sense contextually in our perspective of objectified thinking, that the words must be taken literally in that context, and that they mean what you think they mean....the ka is the pyramid, Co2, reed floats in the sky, etc etc.

A good template for a similar task is what Rolf Krauss had to do to show the astronomical meaning of the texts. Your thesis offers an alternative, from what I gather, that it has to do with the construction of the body of the king, the ka, the pyramid and that is the main theme of the PT's according to you.
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With that preamble, a few comments about PT 534

1) This is in the corridor which matters. At this stage the Ka emerges towards the imperishable star zone, which is a difficult message of the PT's to reconcile with the prior direction towards east, the serdap, and the rising sun, the main theme of the late 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Dynasties as it pertains to the known PT's. Jim Allen acknowledges this peculiar departure.

2) The second thing regarding the particular segment you quoted is the context (something that Hans Lune previously mentioned to you not to over-look). This is a set of spells which are made to seal the pyramid...the king's body in your view of things. But why? One way to explain is to guide the Ka to move forward and not back into the pyramid (see below).

3) The third thing is that here you can see how German and English first, and then English to English, secondly, have evolved over time. Sethe's reading amounts to 'if Thoth comes at you the wrong way don't welcome him...rather tell him, who has no mother, to go to Buto'
In Mercer's reading this idea of Pepi's Ka to render a spell "Go to Buto" does not come out.
"That which is said to him" does not capture what Sethe read there. It should say "that which one ought to say to him"...in other words the spell to be uttered in case YOU (Pepi) come across Thoth.
The other thing which is lost is the fact that "thou hast no mother" is being used as an epithet, which is probably the most important part of the entire phrase, because this could be the Heka Spell formulated in such a way as to not be invoked by accident. I do not know if it is, but there is a clue that it might be. Your take might be that "Go to Buto" is mundane and this prompts you to wonder if the translation might be incorrect. But that could be the clue Cladking...."Go to Buto" might not be the real message...the real message might be "thou hast no mother"...or "you who has been barred from his testicles"

4) You are reading "Thoth" as human progress. Krauss is reading Thoth as the Moon. The goal of the ka is to traverse the winding water way which Krauss has proposed to be the ecliptic. Since the Moon can be seen above and below the Zodiacal asterisms, the Moon is the ferryman who shuttles the ka from the Du3t to the imperishable star zone....and so the ka should not go backwards only forwards.

Again, I am interested in seeing some real proof of what you are proposing, but it's always good to know what's actually out there so you know your task. Your task is to look at the hieroglyphic text, ask for help by some of the posters here to see how Thoth can be read as 'a motherless mind' where conception equals expression with no filter to hold it back to ponder, pontificate, hypothesize, opine, propose, etc. A good place to start is to prove that "mwt" mother has anything to do with thinking which you never did. What does Thoth have to do with Progress? What proof did you use to derive that? I hope you know "Thoth" has no meaning in ancient Egypt. His name was "Djehutj". I would start with his actual name to glean any meaning from it.



Edited 8 time(s). Last edit at 22-Apr-18 22:04 by Manu.

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Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 495 Corpuscles 16-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 442 cladking 16-Apr-18 04:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 382 SallyA 18-Apr-18 23:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 313 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 319 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 330 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:05
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 299 SallyA 19-Apr-18 22:26
The Low Road and Science. 285 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 367 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:42
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 330 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 334 Warwick 16-Apr-18 15:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 cladking 16-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 298 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 287 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 317 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 301 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:35
Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 305 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 275 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 286 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:25
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! .. walkways 283 SallyA 19-Apr-18 00:13
Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 296 Manu 22-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 288 cladking 22-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 274 Manu 22-Apr-18 22:34
We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 291 cladking 22-Apr-18 23:49
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 301 Manu 23-Apr-18 01:00
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 267 cladking 23-Apr-18 03:24
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 336 Manu 23-Apr-18 04:07
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 276 cladking 23-Apr-18 13:56
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 341 Manu 23-Apr-18 16:48
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 311 cladking 23-Apr-18 18:14
OMG 325 Warwick 23-Apr-18 18:33
Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 eyeofhorus33 23-Apr-18 22:04
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 330 cladking 23-Apr-18 22:24
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 Manu 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 292 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:25
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 297 cladking 25-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 304 Manu 25-Apr-18 05:12
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 304 cladking 25-Apr-18 14:23
Zipf's Law 319 cladking 26-Apr-18 14:40
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 314 cladking 28-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 273 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:21
Heap's Law 291 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:29
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 191 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:31
A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 296 Barbelo 23-Apr-18 22:38
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 306 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:03
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 304 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:16
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 252 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 04:04
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 281 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 260 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 05:40
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 295 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 05:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 322 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 07:13
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 280 cladking 24-Apr-18 13:42
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 269 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 20:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 288 cladking 25-Apr-18 00:15
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 291 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:30
Breath of Life. 315 cladking 14-Oct-18 00:04
Re: Breath of Life. 281 cladking 14-Oct-18 14:02
Lesson now learnt? 279 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 03:44
The Rain in Splain... 292 cladking 24-Apr-18 04:03
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 200 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:34
No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 316 cladking 28-Apr-18 17:36
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 326 Manu 28-Apr-18 18:38
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 285 cladking 29-Apr-18 02:46
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 278 Manu 29-Apr-18 04:07
And Just Like That, Cladking's Whole Theory Was DEBUNKED 308 Barbelo 29-Apr-18 05:06
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 296 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:35
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 320 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:52
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 323 Manu 29-Apr-18 16:00
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 350 cladking 30-Apr-18 01:47
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 279 cladking 19-May-18 14:55
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 258 cladking 30-May-18 15:01
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 260 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 255 cladking 01-Jun-18 22:58
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 230 Warwick 03-Jun-18 20:24
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 236 Thanos5150 03-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 260 Warwick 04-Jun-18 20:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 300 cladking 04-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 252 cladking 03-Jun-18 22:57
They Simply Did Not Think! 315 cladking 30-Apr-18 17:45
Re: They Simply Did Not Think! 347 cladking 30-Apr-18 18:10
Pyramid Text 534 Pepi I original and translation 279 Manu 22-Apr-18 21:58
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 326 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 290 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 325 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 284 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 284 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:32
Common Sense. 296 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Common Sense. 294 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:38
Re: Common Sense. 316 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:45
Re: Common Sense. 278 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:42
Re: Common Sense. 278 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:02
Re: Common Sense. 267 Warwick 17-Apr-18 15:52
Re: Common Sense. 306 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:13
Re: Common Sense. 274 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Common Sense. 297 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:52
Re: Common Sense. 303 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Common Sense. 298 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:45
Amazing 288 Warwick 19-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Amazing 266 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Common Sense . . . upgraded . . .??? . ? . ? . _____ 281 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:52
Re: Common Sense. 264 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:19
Egyptoilogy. 288 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Egyptoilogy. 300 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:21
Re: Egyptoilogy. 285 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:33
Re: Egyptoilogy. 281 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:48
You're definitely losing it. n/t 278 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:26
Re: You're definitely losing it. n/t 301 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 289 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 SallyA 19-Apr-18 01:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 274 cladking 19-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 262 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 275 SallyA 19-Apr-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 279 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 279 SallyA 19-Apr-18 23:40
Re: Proof Ancient People ancient language & brain harmonics . . . additive viewpoints . . 278 SallyA 02-May-18 19:29
Ancient People, ancient language & perspective . . EIGENSTATES 314 SallyA 02-May-18 19:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 300 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 301 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:29
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 272 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 300 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 272 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 332 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 23:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 278 Warwick 17-Apr-18 16:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 298 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 17:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 19:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 cladking 18-Apr-18 21:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 21:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 291 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:01
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 303 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 22:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 117 cladking 09-Jan-19 18:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:36
Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 289 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:12
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 250 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:57
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 300 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 14:15
Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 285 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 283 Warwick 17-Apr-18 18:53
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 300 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:19
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 280 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:31
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 283 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:46
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 285 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 314 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:00
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. . . thermal anomoly ? link please .. NM 306 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:02
Your post, translated ... 296 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:18
Re: Your post, translated ... 360 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Your post, translated ... 277 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:46
Re: Your post, translated ... 290 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:59
Re: Your post, translated ... 297 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 20:08
Re: Your post, translated ... 275 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 319 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:48
Re: Your post, translated ... 299 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:53
Re: Your post, translated ... 313 atugablish 17-Apr-18 23:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 281 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 00:01
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 306 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:02
Enter FEAR 284 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:10
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 277 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 265 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:04
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 292 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... 303 cladking 19-Apr-18 02:15
Re: Your post, translated ... 252 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:17
Your post is mere deflection... 289 cladking 21-Apr-18 15:22
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 281 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:28
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 276 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:45
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 294 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 267 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:50
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 274 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:11
Re: Your post, translated ... 284 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Your post, translated ... 302 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:54
Re: Your post, translated ... 298 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:14
Re: Your post, translated ... 276 SallyA 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 300 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Your post, translated ... 289 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:36
Re: Your post, translated ... 290 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:56
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 321 SallyA 18-Apr-18 06:27
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 262 cladking 18-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 277 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:17
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 288 cladking 19-Apr-18 03:40
A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 283 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 04:00
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 319 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:18
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 389 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 05:11
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 301 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:15
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 271 SallyA 18-Apr-18 22:32
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 275 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:20
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 257 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 275 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:01
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . lynx .. a smaller, tail-less cat with tufted ears 272 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:57
Be my guest ... 308 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:47
Re: Be my guest ... 277 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Be my guest ... 312 cladking 17-Apr-18 22:30
Re: Be my guest ... 289 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 17:24
Re: Be my guest ... 256 cladking 18-Apr-18 17:48
Re: Be my guest ... 280 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Be my guest ... 274 cladking 18-Apr-18 19:07
Read this thread. 261 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:02
Re: Be my guest ... 291 Manu 17-Apr-18 22:53
Re: Be my guest ... 302 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 00:00
Re: Be my guest ... 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:35
Re: Be my guest ... 290 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 01:22
Re: Be my guest ... 261 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:40
Re: Be my guest ... 278 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 03:15
Re: Be my guest ... 292 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Be my guest ... 296 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 04:59
Re: Be my guest ... 279 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:51
Re: Be my guest ... 298 Warwick 18-Apr-18 15:59
Re: Be my guest ... 275 cladking 18-Apr-18 16:20
Re: Be my guest ... 283 Warwick 19-Apr-18 15:13
Re: Be my guest ... 272 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 20:10
Re: Be my guest ... 270 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:40
Re: Be my guest ... 278 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:27
Re: Be my guest ... 281 Corpuscles 18-Apr-18 02:28
Re: Be my guest ... 319 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:43
Re: Be my guest ... 279 sfbey 18-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Be my guest ... 297 cladking 18-Apr-18 02:07
Re: Be my guest ... 276 Manu 18-Apr-18 17:53
Re: Be my guest ... 264 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Be my guest ... 285 cladking 19-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 331 Manu 18-Apr-18 00:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 270 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:19
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 265 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:42
Rephrasing of Proof. 311 cladking 18-Apr-18 14:45
They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 312 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:25
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 294 SallyA 20-Apr-18 02:16
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 273 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 263 SallyA 20-Apr-18 18:18
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 268 cladking 20-Apr-18 19:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 257 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:08
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 261 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:49
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 290 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:37
Re: They Simply, REALLY understood sound, but heiroglyphs were visual . . . Harmonics & Heiroglyphs 264 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:06
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. . .INFO_GRAPHIC 243 SallyA 22-Apr-18 01:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 115 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:08
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 286 SallyA 18-Apr-18 03:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:20
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 14:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 257 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:01
Poor Bumpkin. 289 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:12
Re: Poor Bumpkin. 268 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:04
Cue Hanlune. 307 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:11
Re: Cue Hanlune. 298 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:27
Proven By Every Word in the Pyramid Texts! 281 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 282 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 275 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:27
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 287 Eddie Larry 19-Apr-18 21:43
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 289 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:47
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 283 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 264 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:55
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 282 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:44
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 273 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:17
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 275 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:36
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 286 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:37
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 297 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:05
Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 313 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 00:54
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 285 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:54
Stop it! 281 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Stop it! 275 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:07
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 273 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:04
Am I Mad Enough, Professor? 298 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 21:18
Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 281 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:20
Re: Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 317 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 23:04
1000's of More Words Unattested. 274 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:59
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 328 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:24
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 289 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:19
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 299 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:02
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 304 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:58
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 300 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:07
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 350 cladking 22-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 288 Thunderbird 25-Apr-18 15:09
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 287 cladking 25-Apr-18 22:02
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 297 Thunderbird 26-Apr-18 00:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 cladking 04-May-18 16:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 308 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 16:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 264 cladking 04-May-18 20:41
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 23:43
Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 288 cladking 05-May-18 01:22
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 306 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 02:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 243 cladking 05-May-18 14:02
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 293 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 14:31
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 283 cladking 06-May-18 00:50
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 260 Eddie Larry 06-May-18 13:35
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 261 cladking 06-May-18 13:47
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 247 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:36
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 270 cladking 08-May-18 02:08
Wordsof Superstition 298 Warwick 08-May-18 16:50
Re: Wordsof Superstition 269 cladking 08-May-18 19:29
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 276 Eddie Larry 08-May-18 19:55
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 273 cladking 08-May-18 20:25
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 294 Warwick 08-May-18 20:34
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 247 cladking 08-May-18 21:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 276 cladking 06-May-18 13:37
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 296 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:39
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 346 cladking 08-May-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 229 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:11
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 236 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 231 engbren 10-Sep-18 05:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 208 cladking 11-Sep-18 01:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 246 engbren 11-Sep-18 05:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 217 cladking 11-Sep-18 19:12
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 cladking 12-Sep-18 02:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 235 D-Archer 09-Sep-18 10:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 204 nemomen 12-Sep-18 01:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 247 cladking 12-Sep-18 01:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 231 Hanslune 14-Sep-18 00:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 214 engbren 15-Sep-18 15:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 220 Manu 15-Sep-18 17:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 233 Hanslune 16-Sep-18 05:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 210 Manu 20-Sep-18 04:43
Insightful 207 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 06:37
Re: Insightful 186 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:32
Re: Insightful 197 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Insightful 184 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:10
Re: Insightful 195 Barbelo 21-Sep-18 20:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 195 cladking 20-Sep-18 14:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 226 engbren 16-Sep-18 14:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 190 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 233 cladking 15-Sep-18 18:36
So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 316 cladking 14-Sep-18 01:40
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 184 cladking 18-Sep-18 14:15
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 197 DavidK 18-Sep-18 14:34
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 205 cladking 18-Sep-18 19:05
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 198 cladking 19-Sep-18 02:57
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 233 cladking 19-Sep-18 03:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 118 cladking 08-Jan-19 20:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 96 cladking 11-Jan-19 16:19
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 95 Warwick 11-Jan-19 21:23
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 137 cladking 11-Jan-19 22:15
I stand corrected.. 92 Warwick 14-Jan-19 19:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 130 cladking 17-Jan-19 01:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 216 cladking 11-Oct-18 14:29
Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 248 cladking 12-Oct-18 16:56
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 114 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:21
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 122 Brian Patterson 29-Dec-18 04:39
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 143 cladking 29-Dec-18 05:01
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 110 Warwick 02-Jan-19 04:28
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 112 cladking 02-Jan-19 05:13
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 97 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:54
What Hate? 108 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:59
Re: What Hate? 95 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:40
Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 114 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:00
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 92 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:19
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 90 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:20
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 109 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:36
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 97 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:43
I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 88 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:49
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 99 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:59
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 105 Warwick 02-Jan-19 20:14
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 111 cladking 02-Jan-19 21:12
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 117 Warwick 03-Jan-19 06:16
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 87 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:10
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 113 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 220 cladking 19-Sep-18 14:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 190 Corpuscles 19-Sep-18 23:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 196 cladking 20-Sep-18 01:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 201 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 226 cladking 22-Sep-18 00:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 185 Manu 22-Sep-18 14:13
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 207 cladking 22-Sep-18 17:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 230 Manu 23-Sep-18 13:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 195 cladking 23-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 190 DUNE 23-Sep-18 14:38
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 191 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:31
Lever Holes 187 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:00
Re: Lever Holes 173 Manu 23-Sep-18 21:30
Re: Lever Holes 187 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 186 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:37
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 198 DUNE 23-Sep-18 16:57
Basalt Platform 187 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 20:54
Re: Basalt Platform 205 DUNE 23-Sep-18 22:41
Re: Basalt Platform 211 Barbelo 24-Sep-18 02:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 249 cladking 24-Sep-18 14:05
An Advanced State 225 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 01:32
Re: An Advanced State 210 Corpuscles 20-Sep-18 02:11
How Much Proof is Needed? 219 cladking 29-Sep-18 02:49
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 197 eyeofhorus33 29-Sep-18 11:30
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 213 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:00
What you will answer every single question put to you? 176 Hanslune 28-Nov-18 06:21
Brand New Nonsense! 292 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:15
Your very special brand of nonsense! 215 eyeofhorus33 04-Oct-18 21:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 203 cladking 05-Oct-18 02:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 209 eyeofhorus33 05-Oct-18 13:20
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 250 cladking 05-Oct-18 14:12
A new claim by Cladking we await the evidence...... 189 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 05:38
This thread is the evidence. 177 cladking 06-Oct-18 13:18
Your opinion isn't evidence 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 15:53
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence 172 cladking 06-Oct-18 16:21
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 17:38
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 171 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:13
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:23
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 167 cladking 06-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 168 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:42
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 209 cladking 06-Oct-18 22:28
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 165 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:23
Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:27
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 195 cladking 06-Oct-18 19:53
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 180 eyeofhorus33 06-Oct-18 21:12
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 180 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:13
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 241 cladking 06-Oct-18 21:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 172 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:39
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 156 cladking 07-Oct-18 15:45
Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 186 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 15:55
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 170 cladking 07-Oct-18 21:54
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 183 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 23:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 176 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 186 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 02:08
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 185 Corpuscles 08-Oct-18 05:10
Cladking is simply not worth talking too 181 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 06:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 213 cladking 08-Oct-18 13:52
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 153 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:47
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 177 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 169 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:33
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 168 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 22:58
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 174 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:53
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 167 Corpuscles 09-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 228 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:28
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 176 cladking 07-Oct-18 16:03
Cladking makes excuses for not publishing his research 209 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 17:47
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 204 eyeofhorus33 09-Oct-18 18:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 200 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:17
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 210 cladking 10-Oct-18 13:58
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 195 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:31
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 218 cladking 07-Oct-18 14:55
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 208 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 123 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 85 cladking 08-Feb-19 15:32
End of Thread 87 Warwick 08-Feb-19 19:40
Re: End of Thread 79 cladking 08-Feb-19 21:25
Re: End of Thread 84 Warwick 09-Feb-19 03:20
Re: End of Thread 179 cladking 13-Feb-19 03:16


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