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> Alright. Let's approach this systematically to see
> what we can make of it since eyeofhorus33 made the
> effort to post it.

> There is a clue you can use to date this stele
> without knowing anything else. Look at the last
> word in the first register which bleeds over to
> the second: "Abdju". That's Abydos. The entire
> first row literally reads:
> "King-Royal Offering- that he
> gives-Osiris-foremost westerners-lord of Abydos"
> A bit more smoothly: An offering that the king
> gives (easier "a royal offering")...Osiris,
> foremost of the Westerners, Lord of Abydos....
>
> The clue is that in the Middle Kingdom, Djer's
> tomb at Um-el-Qa'ab (Abydos) was 'suddenly'
> attributed to Osiris. So this stele cannot be
> older than the 11th Dynasty. The stele is
> dedicated to Nhee-Ptah-Zokar-Pepi and his wife and
> four children. So this appears to have been by a
> family tomb. His main claim to fame comes from his
> title: "Imir-Kdw" the chief of the potters.
> Another clue as to his status is that he was born
> to the Mistress of the House of "Ay" which implies
> that his mother was a prominent personality of the
> time.

Thanks for the info.

Ancient Language never really died but it was wholly replaced as a day to day language in the event we call "the tower of babel". It was never used after 2000 BC except by what we call the "Niphilim" who were the few individuals who could still manipulate the metaphysics. They died out as well without ever finding a means to bridge ancient knowledge and modern superstitious language. Only the ancient technology survived.

Many concepts from Ancient Language survived into the book of the dead but these were invariably changed because later people had no science and didn't understand ancient science. "True of Voice", "justified" etc are terms that were preserved with new meaning. If one were "true of voice" he could speak "the words of the gods" and thus have power and ability. If he were "justified" it means he used good science and lived a good life. It means his "prophesies' came true and he was a productive member of a society of scientists and metaphysicians.

> This is an interesting thought. The Mouth Opening
> Ritual and the Heb Sed both also may have had much
> more literal and concrete prehistoric roots and
> some Egyptologists have entertained this
> possibility so you have a precedence there with
> your theory. Looking at what looks to be ritual
> killings on First Dynasty oil tags and evidence
> thereof in the form of retainer graves, you can
> postulate a gradual "taming" of the violent
> rituals by "formalizing" them with more symbolic
> rituals, language and spells. However, you have to
> ask what purpose the weighing of the heart served
> after dying. Could weighing have been another way
> of saying that the chest actually does feel heavy,
> pressured, and tight when one is burdened by
> guilt, sadness, or anger?

Thanks for the information.

> Somewhat of possible interest to you: There are
> two versions of an oil tag attributed to Den. On
> the earlier one two lotus buds are shown. In the
> later version, the two are replaced by two
> pyramid-like symbols actually X8, which means
> "give". The context is that under Den there was in
> fact a written language reform. This particular
> example is a fascinating glimpse into the
> stylization of the depiction of the physical
> world. In this case, the lotus is shown with a
> geometric symbol which is later used to mean "to
> give". And you see this symbol on
> Nhee-Ptah-Zokar-Pepi's stele in the first and
> second register where it means exactly that....to
> give. You can also see the lotus itself on the
> offering table and his wife Hapy is holding one to
> her face.

Thanks again.

> Your theory is that the pyramid is the king's ka.
> In one version of the Hermopolitean Ogdoad
> cosmogony, the lotus is the first being created
> and from it springs the Sun.

I have to believe this is a misinterpretation as well. The lotus probably could be representative of the water and it was atum Himself which defined the earth and the sky and gave birth to shu and tefnut. If this is true then it was CO2 that sprang from the lotus. CO2 was a solar element so it is easily confused with the sun Itself.

> So if the lotus had
> anything to do with inspiring the pyramidal shape
> then there is a bridge and path to your theory.
> One interesting observation is the eight-sided
> pyramid at Giza. Was that meant to symbolize the
> Ogdoad (the eight) in the form of an
> eight-petalled lotus and the king's ka was that
> which emanated from it like Atum in the moment of
> creation?

Thanks again.

> I think there are some things you tapped into
> which ring true to me. It is obvious that you have
> not convinced others. My message to you is this:
> There is a method called the scientific method.

Showing this with observation and experiment (modern science) is next to impossible when Egyptologists control Giza and refuse to do science. Ironically it is already virtually proven using ancient science. People don't seem to realize that a 75% probability of me being right in this case is tantamount to "certainty" in most people.

Building on the work of two centuries of scholars after I've shown that two centuries of scholars are wrong might be a fool's errand. But, far more importantly, I'm no scholar. It would take me two lifetimes or longer to build on others' work and then show that the pyramids were built with the weight of water. Then I'd still be left to show that ancient people weren't superstitious.

I fully understand the belief of most people that I can't be right because science is always a collaboration among scientists and gifted scholars. It seems impossible a disabled ditch digger can come along and overturn it all. To most people theory is established fact that can't be overturned and only be added to or amended to suit specific conditions. It simply doesn't occur to people that cosmology is stuck in the 1920's and most of the rest of science is bogged down in the 1890's. They see startling new technology and mistake it for understanding, science, and theory. People can't see that we use analog language or that every sentence is understood differently by every individual. They can't see the nature of humanity or the nature (metaphysics) of science. They can only see their beliefs and they believe in human perfection, omniscience, and intelligence.

I can't battle this by building on the work of others. This simply requires everything known to be rewritten and reinterpreted. History becomes an entirely new subject as do several other fields. How do I build on such rubble?

Meanwhile, as I wait for everyone to catch up, all this work, work enough for millions goes begging. It can't be done until the truth is seen. One man against this mountain of work is as absurd as one man dragging stones to build a great pyramid. There's simply nowhere to start.

The ONLY hope to get this work started is to get others, anyone, to see it can't be logically disproven simply because it is correct. That's what this thread is for; to help people see we are all mistaken about everything.


> Someone on this thread, I think it was Warwick,
> said to you that it would be better to build on
> some kind of recognizable foundation and use some
> sort of reasoned construct that everyone can
> recapitulate. Egyptologist are not necessarily the
> best scientists, but you have to remember that
> they cannot easily devise experiments to test and
> falsify models to shape their theories. Aidan
> Dodson just told me a couple of days go that there
> are many myths in Egyptolgy which still linger
> because they were once loudly pronounced and but
> only quietly withdrawn and that means a lot of
> folks in the field still cling to them. One such
> myth, Robert and I took to task to at least even
> the keel a bit and allow others to approach the
> subject with a fresh start.
>
> Why don't you start learning a little bit about
> hieroglyphic at least and look up some of the
> literature on the beginning of Egyptian writing,
> like Dreyer, Helck, Kaplony. Jim Allen has a great
> essay on the evolution of understanding on
> Egyptian verb forms. It is a difficult essay to
> read at first, but at least you get an inkling
> that the field is definitely aware of its
> short-comings and becoming more open-minded and
> less dogmatic about things. Make peace Cladking,
> not war. It might more swiftly take you to where
> your ideas lead you with many great discoveries on
> the way. In any case, I applaud your desire to
> break frontiers and explore new ideas. I love that
> spirit in you.

I would love to make peace but I'm sure there will be no peace until I get back in line. Until I march with all the rest of we lemmings I will stand out as the oddest ball with the oddest theory about how they built the pyramids. And one of the things that makes it oddest is that it would be so easy to test it.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 4365 cladking 16-Apr-18 02:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 495 Corpuscles 16-Apr-18 04:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 440 cladking 16-Apr-18 04:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 381 SallyA 18-Apr-18 23:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 313 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 319 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 329 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:05
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! ... simplifications & avoiding traps 299 SallyA 19-Apr-18 22:26
The Low Road and Science. 284 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 366 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:42
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 329 cladking 16-Apr-18 13:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 333 Warwick 16-Apr-18 15:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 317 cladking 16-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 318 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 297 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 287 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 293 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 317 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 301 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:35
Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 305 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Ramps are Dead, Long Live Ramps. 274 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 286 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:25
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! .. walkways 283 SallyA 19-Apr-18 00:13
Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 296 Manu 22-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 287 cladking 22-Apr-18 22:03
Re: Thoth, Moon or Human Thought Pro(cess/gress). 273 Manu 22-Apr-18 22:34
We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 289 cladking 22-Apr-18 23:49
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 300 Manu 23-Apr-18 01:00
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 267 cladking 23-Apr-18 03:24
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 335 Manu 23-Apr-18 04:07
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 276 cladking 23-Apr-18 13:56
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 341 Manu 23-Apr-18 16:48
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 311 cladking 23-Apr-18 18:14
OMG 325 Warwick 23-Apr-18 18:33
Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 eyeofhorus33 23-Apr-18 22:04
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 330 cladking 23-Apr-18 22:24
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 296 Manu 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 291 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:25
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 297 cladking 25-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 304 Manu 25-Apr-18 05:12
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 303 cladking 25-Apr-18 14:23
Zipf's Law 319 cladking 26-Apr-18 14:40
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 314 cladking 28-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 272 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:21
Heap's Law 290 cladking 28-Apr-18 15:29
Re: Threshold? Of what? Lunacy? 191 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:31
A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 295 Barbelo 23-Apr-18 22:38
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 305 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:03
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 304 cladking 24-Apr-18 01:16
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 252 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 04:04
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 281 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 04:52
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 259 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 05:40
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 295 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 05:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 321 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 07:13
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 279 cladking 24-Apr-18 13:42
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 269 Barbelo 24-Apr-18 20:59
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 287 cladking 25-Apr-18 00:15
Re: A Prophet Is Never Accepted In His Own Town 291 cladking 24-Apr-18 14:30
Breath of Life. 315 cladking 14-Oct-18 00:04
Re: Breath of Life. 281 cladking 14-Oct-18 14:02
Lesson now learnt? 279 Corpuscles 24-Apr-18 03:44
The Rain in Splain... 291 cladking 24-Apr-18 04:03
Re: We Literally Stand at the Threshold. 200 Hanslune 08-Sep-18 17:34
No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 315 cladking 28-Apr-18 17:36
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 326 Manu 28-Apr-18 18:38
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 285 cladking 29-Apr-18 02:46
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 277 Manu 29-Apr-18 04:07
And Just Like That, Cladking's Whole Theory Was DEBUNKED 307 Barbelo 29-Apr-18 05:06
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 295 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:35
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 319 cladking 29-Apr-18 13:52
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 323 Manu 29-Apr-18 16:00
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 349 cladking 30-Apr-18 01:47
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 279 cladking 19-May-18 14:55
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 257 cladking 30-May-18 15:01
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 260 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 254 cladking 01-Jun-18 22:58
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 229 Warwick 03-Jun-18 20:24
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 236 Thanos5150 03-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 259 Warwick 04-Jun-18 20:09
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 299 cladking 04-Jun-18 20:51
Re: No Human Thought Pro(cess/esses). 251 cladking 03-Jun-18 22:57
They Simply Did Not Think! 315 cladking 30-Apr-18 17:45
Re: They Simply Did Not Think! 346 cladking 30-Apr-18 18:10
Pyramid Text 534 Pepi I original and translation 278 Manu 22-Apr-18 21:58
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 325 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 18:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 289 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 324 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:32
Common Sense. 296 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Common Sense. 293 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:38
Re: Common Sense. 315 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:45
Re: Common Sense. 278 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:42
Re: Common Sense. 278 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:02
Re: Common Sense. 267 Warwick 17-Apr-18 15:52
Re: Common Sense. 306 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:13
Re: Common Sense. 273 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Common Sense. 297 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:52
Re: Common Sense. 302 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Common Sense. 297 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:45
Amazing 288 Warwick 19-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Amazing 266 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Common Sense . . . upgraded . . .??? . ? . ? . _____ 281 SallyA 19-Apr-18 20:52
Re: Common Sense. 264 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:19
Egyptoilogy. 288 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Egyptoilogy. 299 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:21
Re: Egyptoilogy. 285 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:33
Re: Egyptoilogy. 280 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:48
You're definitely losing it. n/t 278 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:26
Re: You're definitely losing it. n/t 301 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 cladking 16-Apr-18 18:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 317 Warwick 16-Apr-18 18:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 278 SallyA 19-Apr-18 01:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 cladking 19-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 261 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:09
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 275 SallyA 19-Apr-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 278 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! . . additive viewpoints . . 279 SallyA 19-Apr-18 23:40
Re: Proof Ancient People ancient language & brain harmonics . . . additive viewpoints . . 278 SallyA 02-May-18 19:29
Ancient People, ancient language & perspective . . EIGENSTATES 313 SallyA 02-May-18 19:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 299 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 300 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:29
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 288 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Warwick 16-Apr-18 19:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 263 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 291 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:46
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 301 Warwick 16-Apr-18 20:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 292 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 272 cladking 16-Apr-18 19:48
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 275 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 20:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 262 cladking 16-Apr-18 20:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 299 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 271 cladking 16-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 331 Eddie Larry 16-Apr-18 23:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 277 Warwick 17-Apr-18 16:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 297 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 17:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 283 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 19:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 cladking 18-Apr-18 21:04
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 21:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 290 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:01
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 302 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 22:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 117 cladking 09-Jan-19 18:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 278 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 262 Warwick 17-Apr-18 20:34
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:33
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 266 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:36
Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 288 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:12
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 249 cladking 17-Apr-18 13:57
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 299 Eddie Larry 17-Apr-18 14:15
Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 285 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:40
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 282 Warwick 17-Apr-18 18:53
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 299 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:19
Re: Words of the Gods Were the Words of Science. 279 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:31
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 283 Warwick 17-Apr-18 17:46
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 284 cladking 17-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. 314 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:00
Re: Superstition Vs Words of the Gods. . . thermal anomoly ? link please .. NM 306 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:02
Your post, translated ... 296 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:18
Re: Your post, translated ... 359 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:35
Re: Your post, translated ... 276 Warwick 17-Apr-18 19:46
Re: Your post, translated ... 290 cladking 17-Apr-18 19:59
Re: Your post, translated ... 297 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 20:08
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Re: Your post, translated ... 318 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:48
Re: Your post, translated ... 299 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:53
Re: Your post, translated ... 313 atugablish 17-Apr-18 23:31
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-18 00:01
Re: Your post, translated ... 279 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:41
Re: Your post, translated ... 306 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:02
Enter FEAR 283 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:10
Re: Your post, translated ... 280 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 276 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 264 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:04
Re: Your post, translated ... but a point of view? 291 SallyA 19-Apr-18 02:24
Re: Your post, translated ... 302 cladking 19-Apr-18 02:15
Re: Your post, translated ... 252 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:17
Your post is mere deflection... 289 cladking 21-Apr-18 15:22
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 281 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:28
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 276 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:45
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 293 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:16
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 267 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:50
Re: Your post is mere deflection... 273 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:11
Re: Your post, translated ... 283 cladking 17-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Your post, translated ... 302 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 21:54
Re: Your post, translated ... 298 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:14
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Re: Your post, translated ... 299 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:09
Re: Your post, translated ... 289 SallyA 18-Apr-18 02:36
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Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 321 SallyA 18-Apr-18 06:27
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 262 cladking 18-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 276 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:17
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . about those abreviations for kinds of beer, bread and so forth 288 cladking 19-Apr-18 03:40
A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 282 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 04:00
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 318 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:18
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 388 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 05:11
Re: A Charlatan, A Fraud Or Deluded 301 cladking 19-Apr-18 12:15
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 271 SallyA 18-Apr-18 22:32
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 275 cladking 19-Apr-18 00:20
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 257 SallyA 19-Apr-18 03:44
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . ??? read the whole theead? 274 cladking 19-Apr-18 04:01
Re: Your post, translated ...thank you (!) . . lynx .. a smaller, tail-less cat with tufted ears 272 SallyA 19-Apr-18 04:57
Be my guest ... 308 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-18 19:47
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Re: Be my guest ... 311 cladking 17-Apr-18 22:30
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Re: Be my guest ... 280 eyeofhorus33 18-Apr-18 18:04
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Read this thread. 260 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:02
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Re: Be my guest ... 261 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:40
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Re: Be my guest ... 292 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:14
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Re: Be my guest ... 278 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:51
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Re: Be my guest ... 274 cladking 18-Apr-18 16:20
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Re: Be my guest ... 272 Thanos5150 19-Apr-18 20:10
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Re: Be my guest ... 277 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:27
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Re: Be my guest ... 319 cladking 18-Apr-18 03:43
Re: Be my guest ... 279 sfbey 18-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Be my guest ... 296 cladking 18-Apr-18 02:07
Re: Be my guest ... 275 Manu 18-Apr-18 17:53
Re: Be my guest ... 262 cladking 18-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Be my guest ... 285 cladking 19-Apr-18 13:44
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 330 Manu 18-Apr-18 00:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 00:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 258 Warwick 18-Apr-18 01:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 282 cladking 18-Apr-18 01:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 273 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:19
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 265 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:17
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 287 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:42
Rephrasing of Proof. 311 cladking 18-Apr-18 14:45
They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 311 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:25
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 293 SallyA 20-Apr-18 02:16
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 273 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 262 SallyA 20-Apr-18 18:18
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 268 cladking 20-Apr-18 19:28
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 257 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:08
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 260 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:49
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. 290 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:37
Re: They Simply, REALLY understood sound, but heiroglyphs were visual . . . Harmonics & Heiroglyphs 264 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:06
Re: They Simply Didn't Have the Words. . .INFO_GRAPHIC 243 SallyA 22-Apr-18 01:51
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 114 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:08
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 279 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 02:53
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 285 SallyA 18-Apr-18 03:00
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 cladking 18-Apr-18 04:20
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 281 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 05:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 Hanslune 18-Apr-18 14:27
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 256 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:01
Poor Bumpkin. 289 cladking 18-Apr-18 15:12
Re: Poor Bumpkin. 267 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:04
Cue Hanlune. 307 cladking 18-Apr-18 22:11
Re: Cue Hanlune. 298 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:27
Proven By Every Word in the Pyramid Texts! 281 cladking 19-Apr-18 14:39
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 281 Barbelo 19-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 274 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:27
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 286 Eddie Larry 19-Apr-18 21:43
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 289 cladking 19-Apr-18 21:47
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 283 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 14:13
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 264 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:55
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 282 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:44
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 273 cladking 21-Apr-18 17:17
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 274 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 17:36
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 285 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:37
Re: Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 297 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:05
Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 313 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 00:54
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 284 cladking 20-Apr-18 13:54
Stop it! 280 Warwick 20-Apr-18 15:39
Re: Stop it! 274 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:07
Re: Pathology Is Proven By Every Word NOT in the Pyramid Texts! 273 cladking 20-Apr-18 17:04
Am I Mad Enough, Professor? 298 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 21:18
Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 281 SallyA 20-Apr-18 22:20
Re: Rachmaninoff . . . its still piano . . . look at Salt Lake's amazing organ! 317 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 23:04
1000's of More Words Unattested. 274 cladking 21-Apr-18 14:59
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 327 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 16:24
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 289 cladking 21-Apr-18 18:19
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 299 Hanslune 21-Apr-18 19:02
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 304 cladking 21-Apr-18 23:58
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 300 Hanslune 22-Apr-18 01:07
Re: 1000's of More Words Unattested. 349 cladking 22-Apr-18 02:27
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 288 Thunderbird 25-Apr-18 15:09
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 286 cladking 25-Apr-18 22:02
Re: Ancient Consciousness, world sites,....Communication 297 Thunderbird 26-Apr-18 00:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 276 cladking 04-May-18 16:02
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 308 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 16:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 264 cladking 04-May-18 20:41
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 304 Eddie Larry 04-May-18 23:43
Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 288 cladking 05-May-18 01:22
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 305 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 02:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 243 cladking 05-May-18 14:02
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 292 Eddie Larry 05-May-18 14:31
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 283 cladking 06-May-18 00:50
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 260 Eddie Larry 06-May-18 13:35
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 261 cladking 06-May-18 13:47
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 247 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:36
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 269 cladking 08-May-18 02:08
Wordsof Superstition 297 Warwick 08-May-18 16:50
Re: Wordsof Superstition 269 cladking 08-May-18 19:29
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 275 Eddie Larry 08-May-18 19:55
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 273 cladking 08-May-18 20:25
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 294 Warwick 08-May-18 20:34
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 246 cladking 08-May-18 21:32
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 276 cladking 06-May-18 13:37
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 296 Eddie Larry 07-May-18 22:39
Re: Get Some Fig Leaves Already! 346 cladking 08-May-18 21:40
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 229 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:11
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 236 cladking 09-Sep-18 01:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 231 engbren 10-Sep-18 05:28
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 207 cladking 11-Sep-18 01:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 245 engbren 11-Sep-18 05:14
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 217 cladking 11-Sep-18 19:12
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 269 cladking 12-Sep-18 02:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 235 D-Archer 09-Sep-18 10:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 204 nemomen 12-Sep-18 01:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 246 cladking 12-Sep-18 01:35
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 231 Hanslune 14-Sep-18 00:03
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 214 engbren 15-Sep-18 15:49
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 220 Manu 15-Sep-18 17:57
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 232 Hanslune 16-Sep-18 05:45
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 209 Manu 20-Sep-18 04:43
Insightful 207 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 06:37
Re: Insightful 186 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:32
Re: Insightful 196 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 21:54
Re: Insightful 184 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:10
Re: Insightful 194 Barbelo 21-Sep-18 20:55
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 195 cladking 20-Sep-18 14:32
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 225 engbren 16-Sep-18 14:59
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 189 cladking 20-Sep-18 21:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 233 cladking 15-Sep-18 18:36
So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 316 cladking 14-Sep-18 01:40
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 183 cladking 18-Sep-18 14:15
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 197 DavidK 18-Sep-18 14:34
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 204 cladking 18-Sep-18 19:05
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 198 cladking 19-Sep-18 02:57
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 232 cladking 19-Sep-18 03:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 117 cladking 08-Jan-19 20:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 95 cladking 11-Jan-19 16:19
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 94 Warwick 11-Jan-19 21:23
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 137 cladking 11-Jan-19 22:15
I stand corrected.. 92 Warwick 14-Jan-19 19:54
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 130 cladking 17-Jan-19 01:03
Re: So What Were Ancient People Really Like? 216 cladking 11-Oct-18 14:29
Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 248 cladking 12-Oct-18 16:56
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 114 cladking 29-Dec-18 04:21
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 121 Brian Patterson 29-Dec-18 04:39
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 143 cladking 29-Dec-18 05:01
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 109 Warwick 02-Jan-19 04:28
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 112 cladking 02-Jan-19 05:13
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 96 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:54
What Hate? 108 Warwick 02-Jan-19 05:59
Re: What Hate? 95 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:40
Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 114 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:00
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 92 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:19
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 90 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:20
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 109 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:36
Re: Proof Egyptologists Are Superstitious. 97 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:43
I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 88 cladking 02-Jan-19 19:49
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 99 Warwick 02-Jan-19 19:59
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 104 Warwick 02-Jan-19 20:14
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 110 cladking 02-Jan-19 21:12
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 117 Warwick 03-Jan-19 06:16
Re: I Think You Think Too Much. ;) n/t 87 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:10
Re: Ancient People Though the Eyes of Less Ancients. 113 cladking 02-Jan-19 14:52
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 219 cladking 19-Sep-18 14:31
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 190 Corpuscles 19-Sep-18 23:54
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 196 cladking 20-Sep-18 01:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 200 cladking 21-Sep-18 14:24
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 225 cladking 22-Sep-18 00:23
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 184 Manu 22-Sep-18 14:13
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 207 cladking 22-Sep-18 17:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 230 Manu 23-Sep-18 13:18
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 195 cladking 23-Sep-18 14:30
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 189 DUNE 23-Sep-18 14:38
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 191 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:31
Lever Holes 186 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:00
Re: Lever Holes 172 Manu 23-Sep-18 21:30
Re: Lever Holes 187 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 21:50
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 186 Manu 23-Sep-18 15:37
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 197 DUNE 23-Sep-18 16:57
Basalt Platform 186 Barbelo 23-Sep-18 20:54
Re: Basalt Platform 204 DUNE 23-Sep-18 22:41
Re: Basalt Platform 210 Barbelo 24-Sep-18 02:21
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 248 cladking 24-Sep-18 14:05
An Advanced State 225 Barbelo 20-Sep-18 01:32
Re: An Advanced State 209 Corpuscles 20-Sep-18 02:11
How Much Proof is Needed? 219 cladking 29-Sep-18 02:49
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 196 eyeofhorus33 29-Sep-18 11:30
Re: How Much Proof is Needed? 213 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:00
What you will answer every single question put to you? 176 Hanslune 28-Nov-18 06:21
Brand New Nonsense! 292 cladking 29-Sep-18 13:15
Your very special brand of nonsense! 215 eyeofhorus33 04-Oct-18 21:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 202 cladking 05-Oct-18 02:26
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 208 eyeofhorus33 05-Oct-18 13:20
Re: Your very special brand of nonsense! 250 cladking 05-Oct-18 14:12
A new claim by Cladking we await the evidence...... 189 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 05:38
This thread is the evidence. 177 cladking 06-Oct-18 13:18
Your opinion isn't evidence 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 15:53
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence 172 cladking 06-Oct-18 16:21
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 170 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 17:38
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 170 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:13
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 169 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:23
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 167 cladking 06-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 168 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:42
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 208 cladking 06-Oct-18 22:28
Re: Your opinion isn't evidence and repeating it doesn't help 165 cladking 06-Oct-18 18:23
Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 169 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 19:27
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 194 cladking 06-Oct-18 19:53
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 180 eyeofhorus33 06-Oct-18 21:12
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 179 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:13
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 241 cladking 06-Oct-18 21:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 171 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:39
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 156 cladking 07-Oct-18 15:45
Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 185 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 15:55
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 169 cladking 07-Oct-18 21:54
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 183 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 23:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 176 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 185 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 02:08
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 185 Corpuscles 08-Oct-18 05:10
Cladking is simply not worth talking too 180 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 06:13
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 212 cladking 08-Oct-18 13:52
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 153 cladking 08-Oct-18 00:47
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 176 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:51
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 169 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:33
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 168 Corpuscles 07-Oct-18 22:58
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 173 Hanslune 08-Oct-18 01:53
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 166 Corpuscles 09-Oct-18 20:22
Re: Cladking takes back a false claim of infallibility 227 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:28
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 176 cladking 07-Oct-18 16:03
Cladking makes excuses for not publishing his research 208 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 17:47
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 204 eyeofhorus33 09-Oct-18 18:44
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 200 cladking 09-Oct-18 20:17
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 209 cladking 10-Oct-18 13:58
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 194 Hanslune 07-Oct-18 14:31
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 217 cladking 07-Oct-18 14:55
Re: Cladking doesn't know what Metaphysics is 207 Hanslune 06-Oct-18 21:15
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 123 cladking 03-Jan-19 15:36
Re: Proof Ancient People Were not Superstitious! 85 cladking 08-Feb-19 15:32
End of Thread 87 Warwick 08-Feb-19 19:40
Re: End of Thread 79 cladking 08-Feb-19 21:25
Re: End of Thread 83 Warwick 09-Feb-19 03:20
Re: End of Thread 179 cladking 13-Feb-19 03:16


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