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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Eddie. Again, Wikipedia is not a source- it is a
> source for sources. Some articles are written and
> sourced better than others, which if you actually
> read the
> ma
> in article
instead of whatever it is here
> you have linked, it notes at the top:
> This article does not cite any sources. Please
> help improve this article by adding citations to
> reliable sources. Unsourced material may be
> challenged and removed.

>
> The particular passage you cite is unsourced OR
> (original research) and I have just removed it
> because of this as well as the fact, more
> importantly, the statement that "the Zagros
> Mountains is the appropriate site" is directly
> contradicted by the tale not to mention the
> history of the Bekaa Valley cedar forest itself
> spanning thousands of years across many cultures.
> The story, as it tells us clearly, is in the cedar
> forest in the valley between Mt Hermon and Mt
> Lebanon.
>
>

I did some research and where the idea comes from that the cedar forests are located in the Zagros mountains is because the shorter earlier Sumerian versions of the tale, which are not a single story but several individual stories, say Gilgamesh travelled east to the Zagros Mountains, in this case Iran where evidence of ancient post glacial cedar forests were found (c.8,000BC). In the more extensive Babylonian versions this is completely changed to Gilgamesh travelling west to the cedar forests of Lebanon. While this is very interesting to contemplate, that the original version was actually referring to Iran, it makes no difference to the OP in that the first Babylonian versions date to c. 1800BC and the latest Akkadian version, the oldest complete revision, dates to 1200BC. These place the Epic occuring in the cedar forest of Lebanon so if what they are reffering to is Baalbek then Baalbek would be at least that old.

I updated the Wikipedia pages to reflect this with source.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Apr-18 00:54 by Thanos5150.

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Case for an Older Baalbek 1877 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 06:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 310 MDaines 11-Apr-18 08:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 243 Origyptian 11-Apr-18 11:15
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 233 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:34
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 208 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 215 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:39
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 22:47
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 209 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 178 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:01
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 222 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Audrey 12-Apr-18 17:49
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 182 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:36
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 194 Audrey 12-Apr-18 23:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 185 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 01:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 193 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 03:07
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 173 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 03:26
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 184 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:00
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 216 Audrey 13-Apr-18 03:16
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 178 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:18
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 249 Barbelo 11-Apr-18 11:41
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 211 Thunderbird 11-Apr-18 15:02
Re: Case for no King Solomon 232 Thunderbird 11-Apr-18 15:19
Re: Case for no King Solomon 207 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:51
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 231 Audrey 11-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 193 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 23:11
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 203 Eddie Larry 11-Apr-18 20:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 212 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:18
How Big Was The Forest? 207 Barbelo 11-Apr-18 23:25
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 192 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:58
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 191 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 16:18
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 188 Audrey 13-Apr-18 03:29
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 199 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 15:20
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 210 Audrey 14-Apr-18 01:57
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 244 Eddie Larry 14-Apr-18 04:12
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 177 Eddie Larry 14-Apr-18 22:45
Re: Beer bottles Fly......Duck! 180 Thunderbird 14-Apr-18 22:26
Re: Beer bottles Fly......Duck! 178 Eddie Larry 14-Apr-18 22:37
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 166 Thanos5150 15-Apr-18 02:49
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 172 Eddie Larry 15-Apr-18 02:56
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 186 Thanos5150 15-Apr-18 03:36
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 172 Eddie Larry 15-Apr-18 04:21
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 155 Eddie Larry 15-Apr-18 14:00
Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 208 MDaines 16-Apr-18 07:41
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 158 Thunderbird 16-Apr-18 12:59
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 218 MDaines 16-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 192 Thanos5150 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 210 MDaines 17-Apr-18 07:40
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 180 Thanos5150 14-Apr-18 14:43
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 193 Mike D 20-Apr-18 13:15
Re: Did the Russians visit Baalbek? 166 Thunderbird 20-Apr-18 13:56
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 167 Thanos5150 20-Apr-18 16:00
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 181 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-18 16:09
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 172 Thanos5150 20-Apr-18 17:00
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 173 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-18 17:11
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 189 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 20:47
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 165 Origyptian 20-Apr-18 21:45
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 266 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 22:57
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 183 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 00:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 188 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 03:56
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 194 Corpuscles 12-Apr-18 00:34
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 208 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 01:39
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 195 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 03:52
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 174 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:36
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 14:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 153 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 17:01
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 207 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 00:47
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 139 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 03:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 205 Audrey 13-Apr-18 05:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 179 Thanos5150 14-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Baalbek.....Home of the God's 191 Thunderbird 13-Apr-18 15:14
Re: Baalbek.....Home of the God's 181 Audrey 14-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 173 Audrey 12-Apr-18 19:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 164 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 20:43
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 181 Audrey 12-Apr-18 16:56
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 17:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 186 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 168 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 22:41
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 176 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:58
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 164 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 17:52
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 170 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 165 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 21:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 186 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 21:37
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 164 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 22:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 182 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 22:41
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 184 Origyptian 14-Apr-18 15:14
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 166 Jon Ellison 14-Apr-18 22:20
Re: For God's sakes Lee!... 175 Thunderbird 16-Apr-18 00:15
Some Give A Shit 225 Barbelo 12-Apr-18 05:11
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Re: Some Give A Shit 197 Barbelo 12-Apr-18 21:43
Re: Some Give A Shit 179 Audrey 12-Apr-18 23:21
Re: Some Give A Shit 170 Barbelo 13-Apr-18 00:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 180 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 15:03
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 185 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 17:11
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 225 MDaines 12-Apr-18 17:55
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 181 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:18
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 191 Thunderbird 12-Apr-18 22:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 173 Audrey 13-Apr-18 00:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 211 Thunderbird 13-Apr-18 03:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 184 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:46
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 235 Race Jackson 12-Apr-18 22:54
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 235 MDaines 13-Apr-18 08:20
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 210 Audrey 14-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 255 MDaines 14-Apr-18 08:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 209 Manu 13-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 183 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Manu 13-Apr-18 19:50
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 180 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 190 Manu 13-Apr-18 21:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 188 Barbelo 13-Apr-18 20:26


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