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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Eddie. Again, Wikipedia is not a source- it is a
> source for sources. Some articles are written and
> sourced better than others, which if you actually
> read the
> ma
> in article
instead of whatever it is here
> you have linked, it notes at the top:
> This article does not cite any sources. Please
> help improve this article by adding citations to
> reliable sources. Unsourced material may be
> challenged and removed.

>
> The particular passage you cite is unsourced OR
> (original research) and I have just removed it
> because of this as well as the fact, more
> importantly, the statement that "the Zagros
> Mountains is the appropriate site" is directly
> contradicted by the tale not to mention the
> history of the Bekaa Valley cedar forest itself
> spanning thousands of years across many cultures.
> The story, as it tells us clearly, is in the cedar
> forest in the valley between Mt Hermon and Mt
> Lebanon.
>
>

I did some research and where the idea comes from that the cedar forests are located in the Zagros mountains is because the shorter earlier Sumerian versions of the tale, which are not a single story but several individual stories, say Gilgamesh travelled east to the Zagros Mountains, in this case Iran where evidence of ancient post glacial cedar forests were found (c.8,000BC). In the more extensive Babylonian versions this is completely changed to Gilgamesh travelling west to the cedar forests of Lebanon. While this is very interesting to contemplate, that the original version was actually referring to Iran, it makes no difference to the OP in that the first Babylonian versions date to c. 1800BC and the latest Akkadian version, the oldest complete revision, dates to 1200BC. These place the Epic occuring in the cedar forest of Lebanon so if what they are reffering to is Baalbek then Baalbek would be at least that old.

I updated the Wikipedia pages to reflect this with source.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Apr-18 00:54 by Thanos5150.

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Case for an Older Baalbek 2052 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 06:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 329 MDaines 11-Apr-18 08:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 263 Origyptian 11-Apr-18 11:15
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 255 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:34
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 230 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 236 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:39
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 209 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 22:47
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 224 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:01
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 238 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 203 Audrey 12-Apr-18 17:49
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 195 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:36
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 197 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 01:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 200 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 03:07
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 182 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 03:26
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 195 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:00
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 227 Audrey 13-Apr-18 03:16
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 187 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:18
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 205 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 23:11
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 219 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:18
How Big Was The Forest? 219 Barbelo 11-Apr-18 23:25
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Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 169 Thunderbird 16-Apr-18 12:59
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 229 MDaines 16-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 200 Thanos5150 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 220 MDaines 17-Apr-18 07:40
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 172 Origyptian 20-Apr-18 21:45
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 191 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 00:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 194 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 03:56
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 216 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 01:39
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 180 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:36
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 198 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 14:44
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 212 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 00:47
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 187 Thanos5150 14-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Baalbek.....Home of the God's 200 Thunderbird 13-Apr-18 15:14
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 180 Audrey 12-Apr-18 19:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 172 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 20:43
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 193 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 21:42
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 169 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 17:52
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 179 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 174 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 21:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 194 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 21:37
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 175 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 22:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 191 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 22:41
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 189 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 15:03
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 194 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 17:11
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 235 MDaines 12-Apr-18 17:55
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:18
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 195 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:46
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 251 MDaines 13-Apr-18 08:20
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 219 Audrey 14-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 264 MDaines 14-Apr-18 08:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 219 Manu 13-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 192 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:28
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 190 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 20:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 199 Manu 13-Apr-18 21:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 200 Barbelo 13-Apr-18 20:26
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 33 Thanos5150 14-Sep-19 15:17
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 45 Eddie Larry 14-Sep-19 15:50
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