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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Eddie. Again, Wikipedia is not a source- it is a
> source for sources. Some articles are written and
> sourced better than others, which if you actually
> read the
> ma
> in article
instead of whatever it is here
> you have linked, it notes at the top:
> This article does not cite any sources. Please
> help improve this article by adding citations to
> reliable sources. Unsourced material may be
> challenged and removed.

>
> The particular passage you cite is unsourced OR
> (original research) and I have just removed it
> because of this as well as the fact, more
> importantly, the statement that "the Zagros
> Mountains is the appropriate site" is directly
> contradicted by the tale not to mention the
> history of the Bekaa Valley cedar forest itself
> spanning thousands of years across many cultures.
> The story, as it tells us clearly, is in the cedar
> forest in the valley between Mt Hermon and Mt
> Lebanon.
>
>

I did some research and where the idea comes from that the cedar forests are located in the Zagros mountains is because the shorter earlier Sumerian versions of the tale, which are not a single story but several individual stories, say Gilgamesh travelled east to the Zagros Mountains, in this case Iran where evidence of ancient post glacial cedar forests were found (c.8,000BC). In the more extensive Babylonian versions this is completely changed to Gilgamesh travelling west to the cedar forests of Lebanon. While this is very interesting to contemplate, that the original version was actually referring to Iran, it makes no difference to the OP in that the first Babylonian versions date to c. 1800BC and the latest Akkadian version, the oldest complete revision, dates to 1200BC. These place the Epic occuring in the cedar forest of Lebanon so if what they are reffering to is Baalbek then Baalbek would be at least that old.

I updated the Wikipedia pages to reflect this with source.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Apr-18 00:54 by Thanos5150.

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Case for an Older Baalbek 1660 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 06:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 261 MDaines 11-Apr-18 08:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 210 Origyptian 11-Apr-18 11:15
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 196 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:34
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 174 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 167 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:39
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 159 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 22:47
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 178 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:31
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 146 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:01
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 170 MDaines 12-Apr-18 13:25
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 161 Audrey 12-Apr-18 17:49
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 148 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:36
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 164 Audrey 12-Apr-18 23:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 145 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 01:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 164 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 03:07
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 142 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 03:26
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 148 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:00
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 182 Audrey 13-Apr-18 03:16
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 146 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 04:18
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Re: Case for no King Solomon 178 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:51
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 205 Audrey 11-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 158 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 23:11
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 177 Eddie Larry 11-Apr-18 20:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 181 Thanos5150 11-Apr-18 22:18
How Big Was The Forest? 171 Barbelo 11-Apr-18 23:25
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 164 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 13:58
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 124 Eddie Larry 15-Apr-18 14:00
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Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 129 Thunderbird 16-Apr-18 12:59
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 174 MDaines 16-Apr-18 13:30
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 156 Thanos5150 16-Apr-18 19:39
Re: Zagros, Shoulder of the Cosmic Matriarch 163 MDaines 17-Apr-18 07:40
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 147 Thanos5150 14-Apr-18 14:43
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Re: Did the Russians visit Baalbek? 135 Thunderbird 20-Apr-18 13:56
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 141 Thanos5150 20-Apr-18 16:00
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 141 Thanos5150 20-Apr-18 17:00
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Re: How Big Was The Forest? 152 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 20:47
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 138 Origyptian 20-Apr-18 21:45
Re: How Big Was The Forest? 229 Barbelo 20-Apr-18 22:57
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 154 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 00:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 152 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 03:56
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 162 Corpuscles 12-Apr-18 00:34
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 184 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 01:39
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 165 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 03:52
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 145 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:36
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 160 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 14:12
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 155 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 14:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 124 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 17:01
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 174 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 00:47
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 119 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 03:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 173 Audrey 13-Apr-18 05:44
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 146 Thanos5150 14-Apr-18 01:32
Re: Baalbek.....Home of the God's 162 Thunderbird 13-Apr-18 15:14
Re: Baalbek.....Home of the God's 149 Audrey 14-Apr-18 02:30
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 142 Audrey 12-Apr-18 19:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 132 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 20:43
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 149 Audrey 12-Apr-18 16:56
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 147 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 17:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 154 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 21:42
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 130 Eddie Larry 12-Apr-18 22:41
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 142 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:58
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 132 Eddie Larry 13-Apr-18 17:52
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 143 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 129 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 21:08
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 154 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 21:37
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 139 Origyptian 13-Apr-18 22:06
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 152 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 22:41
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 149 Origyptian 14-Apr-18 15:14
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 135 Jon Ellison 14-Apr-18 22:20
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 149 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 15:03
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 152 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 17:11
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 185 MDaines 12-Apr-18 17:55
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 153 Origyptian 12-Apr-18 22:18
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 158 Thunderbird 12-Apr-18 22:53
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 146 Audrey 13-Apr-18 00:28
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 151 Thanos5150 12-Apr-18 04:46
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Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 188 MDaines 13-Apr-18 08:20
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 177 Audrey 14-Apr-18 00:40
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 215 MDaines 14-Apr-18 08:04
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 176 Manu 13-Apr-18 18:10
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 145 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 19:28
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 163 Manu 13-Apr-18 19:50
Re: Case for an Older Baalbek 149 Thanos5150 13-Apr-18 20:53
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