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Manu Wrote:
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> Poster Boy Wrote:
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>
>
> > If the orthodox Egyptologist rejects Evidence A
> > because he or she can't provide a compelling
> link
> > to the ancient Egyptians, said ortho will tend
> to
> > assume that Evidence A MUST be random.
>
> That's exactly right. The contrived dichotomy
> between randomness and intelligent design to the
> exclusion of incidental occurrences creates false
> dilemmas on which bad theories are built and also
> divides the camps unnecessarily. Both camps are
> equally at fault.

PB _ Amen
>
> pb Chance theory has
> > become a dumping ground that rarely gets the
> > attention it deserves, since academics so often
> > attribute what they can't explain to chance..;.
> > WITHOUT seeking to address improbabilities.
>
> manu And the reason for that is that they assume more
> degrees of freedom than there are because there
> are relationships hiding behind the chaos veil.
> That's why you need alternative historians because
> they are extremely good at recognizing patterns.



PB - If you think about it, there is very little incentive for an ortho to consider patterns outside of his realms of interest, in Egyptology, for example. And there is usally considerable incentive for themn to NOT seriously patterns that concern things one or more standard deviations from the orthodox norm.


>
> You should watch Leonard Susskind's lecture on
> "Boltzmann and the Arrow of Time". That'll change
> your mind about how top physicists look at this.

As with what you said about stereotyping academics, you should not presume to know where I stand on such matters. My general take is that the most informed academics have moved well beyond the 17th century framing that seems to dominate mainstream thought and lower-level academia.
>
All I am saying
> is,
> > [if we are to keep on playing the chance card whenever its convenient] let's
> seek
> > to establish the odds when we can, as this is
> the
> > most thorough way to apply our reasoning.
>
manu My mission is elsewhere, but the field could need
> someone who does that...like you. Wish you best of
> success.

PB - thanks, a labour of love.

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GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 1409 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 05:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 271 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 05:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 209 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 06:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 250 molder 20-Feb-18 07:01
citation, etc 209 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 17:56
Re: citation, etc 205 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 18:58
Re: citation, etc 174 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 19:02
Longitude 153 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Longitude 156 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 21:44
Re: Longitude 170 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 22:08
Re: Longitude 145 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:39
Re: Longitude 162 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 00:02
Re: Longitude 173 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 00:50
Re: Longitude 170 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 219 Spiros 20-Feb-18 20:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 160 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:03
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 225 Spiros 21-Feb-18 07:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 194 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 148 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 16:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 159 Spiros 21-Feb-18 17:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 228 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 162 cladking 20-Feb-18 20:41
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 182 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 165 cladking 20-Feb-18 22:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 161 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 23:16
Speaking of Cubits and Meters 117 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 01:06
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 122 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 12:45
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 88 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 14:23
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 84 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 19:42
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 101 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 20:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 113 drew 03-Jul-18 02:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 106 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 03:47
Oops...did I misinterpret my own notes? 112 drew 03-Jul-18 05:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 90 drew 17-Jul-18 16:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 78 Poster Boy 17-Jul-18 22:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 81 drew 18-Jul-18 06:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 81 Poster Boy 18-Jul-18 16:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 89 drew 19-Jul-18 02:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 142 Poster Boy 19-Jul-18 03:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 133 drew 20-Jul-18 21:08
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Poster Boy 21-Jul-18 14:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 drew 21-Jul-18 22:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 82 Poster Boy 22-Jul-18 14:07
I forgot this reference 79 drew 25-Jul-18 02:01
Re: I forgot this reference 71 drew 27-Jul-18 08:48
Re: I forgot this reference 62 drew 27-Jul-18 09:09
Re: The speed of Light , Earths year, and the number 51 104 DUNE 27-Jul-18 09:54
Threshold standards and the number 51 76 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 15:10
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 86 DUNE 27-Jul-18 15:56
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 173 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 18:05
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 80 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 16:21
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 77 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 16:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 114 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 19:27
Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 89 drew 21-Jul-18 22:53
Re: Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 117 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 23:50
Stone from a glass house 84 drew 22-Jul-18 00:07
Re: Stone from a glass house 115 Martin Stower 22-Jul-18 01:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 104 Manu 03-Jul-18 14:56
Einstein's theory on the speed of light may be wrong 141 rodz111 03-Jul-18 16:25
redirect 76 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:44
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 84 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 95 dougkeenan 03-Jul-18 16:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 103 Manu 04-Jul-18 01:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 115 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 04:32
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 111 Manu 04-Jul-18 05:57
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 97 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:18
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 86 Manu 04-Jul-18 15:47
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 72 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 16:28
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 77 Manu 04-Jul-18 16:38
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 17:23
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 93 Manu 04-Jul-18 17:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 78 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 18:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 88 Manu 04-Jul-18 19:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 19:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 89 Manu 04-Jul-18 21:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 87 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 21:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 99 Manu 04-Jul-18 22:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 88 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 02:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 84 Manu 05-Jul-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 04:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 95 Manu 05-Jul-18 05:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 76 dougkeenan 05-Jul-18 12:13
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 76 Manu 05-Jul-18 13:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 62 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 14:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 73 Manu 05-Jul-18 14:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 15:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 78 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:27
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Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 101 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 17:20
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 71 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:41
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 120 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 23:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 112 Manu 05-Jul-18 00:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 15:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 89 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 105 Manu 06-Jul-18 05:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 90 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 14:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 83 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 96 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 91 DUNE 05-Jul-18 16:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 129 DUNE 04-Jul-18 09:12
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 110 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:12
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Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 98 DUNE 09-Jul-18 07:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 118 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 19:48
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 Manu 08-Jul-18 17:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 83 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:52
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 108 Manu 09-Jul-18 04:10
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Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 95 Sirfiroth 09-Jul-18 11:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 102 Manu 09-Jul-18 16:09
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 81 Poster Boy 09-Jul-18 22:38
The Default Chance presumption - why odds matter. 93 Poster Boy 09-Jul-18 23:08
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