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Manu Wrote:
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> Poster Boy Wrote:
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>
>
> > If the orthodox Egyptologist rejects Evidence A
> > because he or she can't provide a compelling
> link
> > to the ancient Egyptians, said ortho will tend
> to
> > assume that Evidence A MUST be random.
>
> That's exactly right. The contrived dichotomy
> between randomness and intelligent design to the
> exclusion of incidental occurrences creates false
> dilemmas on which bad theories are built and also
> divides the camps unnecessarily. Both camps are
> equally at fault.

PB _ Amen
>
> pb Chance theory has
> > become a dumping ground that rarely gets the
> > attention it deserves, since academics so often
> > attribute what they can't explain to chance..;.
> > WITHOUT seeking to address improbabilities.
>
> manu And the reason for that is that they assume more
> degrees of freedom than there are because there
> are relationships hiding behind the chaos veil.
> That's why you need alternative historians because
> they are extremely good at recognizing patterns.



PB - If you think about it, there is very little incentive for an ortho to consider patterns outside of his realms of interest, in Egyptology, for example. And there is usally considerable incentive for themn to NOT seriously patterns that concern things one or more standard deviations from the orthodox norm.


>
> You should watch Leonard Susskind's lecture on
> "Boltzmann and the Arrow of Time". That'll change
> your mind about how top physicists look at this.

As with what you said about stereotyping academics, you should not presume to know where I stand on such matters. My general take is that the most informed academics have moved well beyond the 17th century framing that seems to dominate mainstream thought and lower-level academia.
>
All I am saying
> is,
> > [if we are to keep on playing the chance card whenever its convenient] let's
> seek
> > to establish the odds when we can, as this is
> the
> > most thorough way to apply our reasoning.
>
manu My mission is elsewhere, but the field could need
> someone who does that...like you. Wish you best of
> success.

PB - thanks, a labour of love.

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GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 1176 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 05:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 195 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 05:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 144 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 06:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 189 molder 20-Feb-18 07:01
citation, etc 147 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 17:56
Re: citation, etc 126 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 18:58
Re: citation, etc 111 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 19:02
Longitude 96 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Longitude 94 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 21:44
Re: Longitude 102 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 22:08
Re: Longitude 92 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:39
Re: Longitude 101 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 00:02
Re: Longitude 106 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 00:50
Re: Longitude 103 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 147 Spiros 20-Feb-18 20:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 103 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:03
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 155 Spiros 21-Feb-18 07:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 133 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 100 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 16:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 98 Spiros 21-Feb-18 17:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 171 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 98 cladking 20-Feb-18 20:41
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 125 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 106 cladking 20-Feb-18 22:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 98 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 23:16
Speaking of Cubits and Meters 64 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 01:06
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 61 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 12:45
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 41 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 14:23
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 43 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 19:42
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 49 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 20:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 62 drew 03-Jul-18 02:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 57 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 03:47
Oops...did I misinterpret my own notes? 61 drew 03-Jul-18 05:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 45 drew 17-Jul-18 16:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 35 Poster Boy 17-Jul-18 22:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 32 drew 18-Jul-18 06:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 39 Poster Boy 18-Jul-18 16:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 31 drew 19-Jul-18 02:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Poster Boy 19-Jul-18 03:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 73 drew 20-Jul-18 21:08
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 39 Poster Boy 21-Jul-18 14:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 33 drew 21-Jul-18 22:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 36 Poster Boy 22-Jul-18 14:07
I forgot this reference 29 drew 25-Jul-18 02:01
Re: I forgot this reference 21 drew 27-Jul-18 08:48
Re: I forgot this reference 17 drew 27-Jul-18 09:09
Re: The speed of Light , Earths year, and the number 51 61 DUNE 27-Jul-18 09:54
Threshold standards and the number 51 32 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 15:10
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 29 DUNE 27-Jul-18 15:56
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 51 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 18:05
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 27 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 16:21
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 31 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 16:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 19:27
Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 39 drew 21-Jul-18 22:53
Re: Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 52 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 23:50
Stone from a glass house 38 drew 22-Jul-18 00:07
Re: Stone from a glass house 58 Martin Stower 22-Jul-18 01:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 60 Manu 03-Jul-18 14:56
Einstein's theory on the speed of light may be wrong 46 rodz111 03-Jul-18 16:25
redirect 38 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:44
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 38 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 52 dougkeenan 03-Jul-18 16:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 61 Manu 04-Jul-18 01:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 50 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 04:32
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Manu 04-Jul-18 05:57
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 52 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:18
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 43 Manu 04-Jul-18 15:47
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 36 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 16:28
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 33 Manu 04-Jul-18 16:38
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 45 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 17:23
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 40 Manu 04-Jul-18 17:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 35 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 18:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 40 Manu 04-Jul-18 19:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 40 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 19:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 44 Manu 04-Jul-18 21:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 42 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 21:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 52 Manu 04-Jul-18 22:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 44 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 02:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 38 Manu 05-Jul-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 32 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 04:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 53 Manu 05-Jul-18 05:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 34 dougkeenan 05-Jul-18 12:13
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 37 Manu 05-Jul-18 13:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 29 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 14:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 30 Manu 05-Jul-18 14:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 35 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 15:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 38 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:27
On romancing numbers versus only working with full light speed correlations 54 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 19:41
Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 38 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 16:45
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 49 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 17:20
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 26 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:41
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 56 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 23:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 64 Manu 05-Jul-18 00:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 42 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 15:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 48 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 62 Manu 06-Jul-18 05:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 41 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 14:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 36 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 30 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 35 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 53 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 47 DUNE 05-Jul-18 16:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 83 DUNE 04-Jul-18 09:12
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 57 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:12
To the points of ancient things appearing to anticipate global change 41 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 17:38
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 49 DUNE 09-Jul-18 07:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 62 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 19:48
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 42 Manu 08-Jul-18 17:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 41 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:52
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Manu 09-Jul-18 04:10
Magisterchessmut's SOL calc 46 DavidK 09-Jul-18 07:05
Re: Magisterchessmut's SOL calc 50 Manu 09-Jul-18 21:16
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 47 Sirfiroth 09-Jul-18 11:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Manu 09-Jul-18 16:09
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 36 Poster Boy 09-Jul-18 22:38
The Default Chance presumption - why odds matter. 45 Poster Boy 09-Jul-18 23:08
Re: The Default Chance presumption - why odds matter. 58 Manu 10-Jul-18 02:45
Re: The Default Chance presumption - why odds matter. 70 Poster Boy 10-Jul-18 03:53


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