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Manu Wrote:
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> Poster Boy Wrote:
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>
>
> > If the orthodox Egyptologist rejects Evidence A
> > because he or she can't provide a compelling
> link
> > to the ancient Egyptians, said ortho will tend
> to
> > assume that Evidence A MUST be random.
>
> That's exactly right. The contrived dichotomy
> between randomness and intelligent design to the
> exclusion of incidental occurrences creates false
> dilemmas on which bad theories are built and also
> divides the camps unnecessarily. Both camps are
> equally at fault.

PB _ Amen
>
> pb Chance theory has
> > become a dumping ground that rarely gets the
> > attention it deserves, since academics so often
> > attribute what they can't explain to chance..;.
> > WITHOUT seeking to address improbabilities.
>
> manu And the reason for that is that they assume more
> degrees of freedom than there are because there
> are relationships hiding behind the chaos veil.
> That's why you need alternative historians because
> they are extremely good at recognizing patterns.



PB - If you think about it, there is very little incentive for an ortho to consider patterns outside of his realms of interest, in Egyptology, for example. And there is usally considerable incentive for themn to NOT seriously patterns that concern things one or more standard deviations from the orthodox norm.


>
> You should watch Leonard Susskind's lecture on
> "Boltzmann and the Arrow of Time". That'll change
> your mind about how top physicists look at this.

As with what you said about stereotyping academics, you should not presume to know where I stand on such matters. My general take is that the most informed academics have moved well beyond the 17th century framing that seems to dominate mainstream thought and lower-level academia.
>
All I am saying
> is,
> > [if we are to keep on playing the chance card whenever its convenient] let's
> seek
> > to establish the odds when we can, as this is
> the
> > most thorough way to apply our reasoning.
>
manu My mission is elsewhere, but the field could need
> someone who does that...like you. Wish you best of
> success.

PB - thanks, a labour of love.

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GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 1298 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 05:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 227 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 05:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 177 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 06:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds > Straight Flush 219 molder 20-Feb-18 07:01
citation, etc 182 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 17:56
Re: citation, etc 169 Corpuscles 20-Feb-18 18:58
Re: citation, etc 147 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 19:02
Longitude 123 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Longitude 125 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 21:44
Re: Longitude 136 Barbelo 20-Feb-18 22:08
Re: Longitude 119 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:39
Re: Longitude 130 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 00:02
Re: Longitude 142 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 00:50
Re: Longitude 135 Barbelo 21-Feb-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 184 Spiros 20-Feb-18 20:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 129 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:03
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 184 Spiros 21-Feb-18 07:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 159 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 122 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 16:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 132 Spiros 21-Feb-18 17:37
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 201 Poster Boy 21-Feb-18 17:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 133 cladking 20-Feb-18 20:41
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 152 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 22:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 136 cladking 20-Feb-18 22:59
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 131 Poster Boy 20-Feb-18 23:16
Speaking of Cubits and Meters 91 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 01:06
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 92 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 12:45
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 66 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 14:23
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 67 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Jul-18 19:42
Re: Speaking of Cubits and Meters 76 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 20:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 84 drew 03-Jul-18 02:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 86 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 03:47
Oops...did I misinterpret my own notes? 88 drew 03-Jul-18 05:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 71 drew 17-Jul-18 16:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 57 Poster Boy 17-Jul-18 22:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 drew 18-Jul-18 06:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 65 Poster Boy 18-Jul-18 16:00
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 59 drew 19-Jul-18 02:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 106 Poster Boy 19-Jul-18 03:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 109 drew 20-Jul-18 21:08
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 64 Poster Boy 21-Jul-18 14:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 57 drew 21-Jul-18 22:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Poster Boy 22-Jul-18 14:07
I forgot this reference 53 drew 25-Jul-18 02:01
Re: I forgot this reference 49 drew 27-Jul-18 08:48
Re: I forgot this reference 42 drew 27-Jul-18 09:09
Re: The speed of Light , Earths year, and the number 51 85 DUNE 27-Jul-18 09:54
Threshold standards and the number 51 56 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 15:10
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 61 DUNE 27-Jul-18 15:56
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 117 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 18:05
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 61 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 16:21
Re: Threshold standards and the number 51 60 Poster Boy 27-Jul-18 16:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 93 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 19:27
Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 66 drew 21-Jul-18 22:53
Re: Aw Martin, why didn't you say earlier? 90 Martin Stower 21-Jul-18 23:50
Stone from a glass house 60 drew 22-Jul-18 00:07
Re: Stone from a glass house 88 Martin Stower 22-Jul-18 01:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 87 Manu 03-Jul-18 14:56
Einstein's theory on the speed of light may be wrong 97 rodz111 03-Jul-18 16:25
redirect 60 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:44
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 65 Poster Boy 03-Jul-18 16:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 dougkeenan 03-Jul-18 16:45
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 Manu 04-Jul-18 01:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 90 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 04:32
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Manu 04-Jul-18 05:57
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 76 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:18
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 64 Manu 04-Jul-18 15:47
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 55 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 16:28
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 56 Manu 04-Jul-18 16:38
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 66 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 17:23
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 69 Manu 04-Jul-18 17:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 56 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 18:33
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 68 Manu 04-Jul-18 19:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 19:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 68 Manu 04-Jul-18 21:50
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 64 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 21:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 Manu 04-Jul-18 22:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 72 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 02:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Manu 05-Jul-18 03:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 54 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 04:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 76 Manu 05-Jul-18 05:02
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 54 dougkeenan 05-Jul-18 12:13
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Manu 05-Jul-18 13:35
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 47 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 14:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 54 Manu 05-Jul-18 14:58
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 59 Poster Boy 05-Jul-18 15:06
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:27
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Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 72 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 17:20
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 51 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:41
Re: Speaking of the Great Pyramid and meter... 87 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Jul-18 23:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 88 Manu 05-Jul-18 00:22
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 63 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 15:30
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 71 Manu 05-Jul-18 15:54
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 86 Manu 06-Jul-18 05:27
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 65 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 14:26
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 60 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:14
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 54 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 58 Manu 06-Jul-18 15:42
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 Poster Boy 06-Jul-18 15:51
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 68 DUNE 05-Jul-18 16:36
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 109 DUNE 04-Jul-18 09:12
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 85 Poster Boy 04-Jul-18 15:12
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Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 75 DUNE 09-Jul-18 07:31
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 93 Sirfiroth 05-Jul-18 19:48
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 65 Manu 08-Jul-18 17:19
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 65 Poster Boy 08-Jul-18 22:52
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 84 Manu 09-Jul-18 04:10
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Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 69 Sirfiroth 09-Jul-18 11:34
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 80 Manu 09-Jul-18 16:09
Re: GP's correlation to Speed of Light in Meters: Odds 59 Poster Boy 09-Jul-18 22:38
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