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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> It has been established ONLY as normal for days of
> the month (hence why I originally suggested in our
> earlier exchange that the numbers on these blocks
> were days of the month).
>


Hello Scott, I just found this exchange. If you're still around take a look at these quarry marks

Specifically, plate V, upper right. There you see the "ws" scepter in association with two different orientations of the regnal year (presumably of Sneferu in this case). You also get a sense on the variation of painting these symbols. In Campbell's chamber, according to the drawing, you only have a minimal version of this, but it is possible that this is the same crew's stamp.

And here is the same "ws" stamp in association with the 15th regnal year of Sneferu. This is the SW corner block of the Red Pyramid.

As to your question regarding ordinal numbers from "tenth" upward, take a look at Jim Allen's Middle Egyptian Third Edition, page 126. The only question regarding Allen's comment is if the "meh" (see p126) glyph would be invariably used in the OK to denote an ordinal number above 9 on a quarry mark. But you have to at least consider that the the numerals in Campbell's chamber are regnal years and that the "ws" is the same crew mark as the one which worked at Meydum. By the same token, the nfr symbol could be just another crew. There are actually five such crew symbols possible and if you're interested I can send you the reference. My take of these five crews, if that is what's represented, is that they are a distinct bunch of guys from those who worked at the quarry. These could have been construction crews which may explain why some appear together with different "Aprw's" from the quarry (See Doc Trog.'s thread OP).



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07-Apr-18 03:16 by Manu.

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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 414 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 21:22
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 342 Martin Stower 18-Jul-18 14:26
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 417 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 18:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 425 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 19:45
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 379 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:31
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 379 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 12:28
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 426 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 18:41
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 348 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 17:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 355 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 18:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 358 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 18:17
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 394 Manu 07-Apr-18 02:46
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 409 Scott Creighton 07-Apr-18 15:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 422 Manu 07-Apr-18 19:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 474 Martin Stower 03-May-18 21:57
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 376 Corpuscles 13-Feb-18 21:37
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 392 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:54
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 370 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:19
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 386 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:47
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 360 eyeofhorus33 14-Feb-18 18:53
This book might help ? 360 sfbey 14-Feb-18 18:20
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 378 sfbey 15-Feb-18 02:29
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 393 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 18:04
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 369 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:40
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 381 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:08
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 427 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:26
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 363 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 359 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 364 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 349 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:41
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 353 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:46
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 380 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 17:16
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 348 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:27
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 353 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:15
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 357 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 19:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 352 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 368 sfbey 15-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 353 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 361 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:30
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 348 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 356 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 365 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 354 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:56
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 343 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 360 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:19
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 335 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 368 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 343 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:42
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 342 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:53
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 350 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 360 sfbey 16-Feb-18 00:03
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 398 Morten 16-Feb-18 06:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 353 Scott Creighton 16-Feb-18 11:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 363 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 11:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 350 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 324 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 347 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 332 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:17
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 307 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 300 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 323 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 358 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 413 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 11:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 417 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 14:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 381 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 366 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 359 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 16:12
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 358 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:25
Curiouser and curiouser 419 Warwick 27-Feb-18 18:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 333 Corpuscles 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 367 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 329 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 339 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 350 Spiros 16-Feb-18 09:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 329 Spiros 16-Feb-18 11:38
Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 404 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 14:19
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 360 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:52
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 333 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:55
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 350 sfbey 16-Feb-18 14:59
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 374 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:13
Thank you n/t 437 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:53
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 356 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:00
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 339 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:25
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 340 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:29
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 341 sfbey 16-Feb-18 15:05
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