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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> It has been established ONLY as normal for days of
> the month (hence why I originally suggested in our
> earlier exchange that the numbers on these blocks
> were days of the month).
>


Hello Scott, I just found this exchange. If you're still around take a look at these quarry marks

Specifically, plate V, upper right. There you see the "ws" scepter in association with two different orientations of the regnal year (presumably of Sneferu in this case). You also get a sense on the variation of painting these symbols. In Campbell's chamber, according to the drawing, you only have a minimal version of this, but it is possible that this is the same crew's stamp.

And here is the same "ws" stamp in association with the 15th regnal year of Sneferu. This is the SW corner block of the Red Pyramid.

As to your question regarding ordinal numbers from "tenth" upward, take a look at Jim Allen's Middle Egyptian Third Edition, page 126. The only question regarding Allen's comment is if the "meh" (see p126) glyph would be invariably used in the OK to denote an ordinal number above 9 on a quarry mark. But you have to at least consider that the the numerals in Campbell's chamber are regnal years and that the "ws" is the same crew mark as the one which worked at Meydum. By the same token, the nfr symbol could be just another crew. There are actually five such crew symbols possible and if you're interested I can send you the reference. My take of these five crews, if that is what's represented, is that they are a distinct bunch of guys from those who worked at the quarry. These could have been construction crews which may explain why some appear together with different "Aprw's" from the quarry (See Doc Trog.'s thread OP).



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07-Apr-18 03:16 by Manu.

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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 528 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 21:22
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 517 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 18:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 530 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 19:45
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 495 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:31
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 535 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 484 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 12:28
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 457 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 19:02
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 507 Manu 07-Apr-18 02:46
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 525 Scott Creighton 07-Apr-18 15:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 552 Manu 07-Apr-18 19:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 581 Martin Stower 03-May-18 21:57
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 508 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:54
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 479 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:47
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 477 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:17
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 451 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 467 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:40
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 475 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 15:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 464 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 461 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 471 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 437 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:41
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 454 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:46
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 450 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:27
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 486 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 18:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 464 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:52
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 438 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:15
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 485 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 19:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 459 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 461 sfbey 15-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 455 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 450 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:30
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 439 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 459 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 474 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 435 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:56
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 464 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 456 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:19
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 421 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 456 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 449 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:42
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 444 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:53
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 443 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:58
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 457 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 474 sfbey 16-Feb-18 00:03
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 507 Morten 16-Feb-18 06:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 475 Scott Creighton 16-Feb-18 11:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 492 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 11:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 457 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 413 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 433 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 439 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:17
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 396 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 396 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 417 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 469 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 520 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 11:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 522 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 14:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 482 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 465 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 452 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 16:12
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 449 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:25
Curiouser and curiouser 530 Warwick 27-Feb-18 18:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 438 Corpuscles 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 475 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 430 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 438 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 452 Spiros 16-Feb-18 09:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 416 Spiros 16-Feb-18 11:38
Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 524 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 14:19
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 445 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:52
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 435 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:55
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 441 sfbey 16-Feb-18 14:59
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 461 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:13
Thank you n/t 551 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:53
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 478 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:00
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 433 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:25
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 442 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:29
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 456 sfbey 16-Feb-18 15:05
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