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One would not have required a secret cache
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Hi Matt,

You will see I placed the word 'hieroglyphic' between '' marks. What I am meaning here, and I apologise for not being clearer, is that whatever source Vyse found/used for these numbers, HE would have thought of them as hieroglyphics since he was not aware in 1837 there was such a thing as hieratic script and that it had different rules of reading/writing than hieroglyphics. Vyse would have found hieratic numbers but to HIM these signs were merely 'painted hieroglyphics' and, as such, would have followed the same rules as hieroglyphics. Even in his own published works and private journal Vyse refers to these signs as 'hieroglyphics'.


I am not saying Vyse found hieroglyphics; I'm saying that is what VYSE likely THOUGHT he had found because in 1837 he wouldn't have known any better. And because he treated these hieratic numbers like hieroglyphics (i.e. that they could be read from either direction), simply flipping them was to be his undoing as it has resulted in the anomaly we see in that chamber today - imo.

SC



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 15-Feb-18 19:21 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 608 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 12:55
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 503 M. J. Thomas 13-Feb-18 21:04
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 530 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 21:22
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 499 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:37
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 529 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-18 23:44
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 464 Martin Stower 18-Jul-18 14:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 481 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-18 21:23
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 499 M. J. Thomas 14-Feb-18 01:53
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 484 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 03:12
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 487 M. J. Thomas 13-Feb-18 17:57
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 519 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 18:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 532 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 509 Morten 13-Feb-18 22:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 497 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:31
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 452 Morten 13-Feb-18 22:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 538 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 486 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 12:28
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 468 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 16:40
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 465 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 16:58
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 463 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 17:15
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 462 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 17:29
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 549 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 18:41
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 534 Morten 14-Feb-18 16:07
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 451 Morten 14-Feb-18 18:01
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 459 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 19:02
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 527 Scott Creighton 07-Apr-18 15:32
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 478 Corpuscles 13-Feb-18 23:55
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 487 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:19
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 481 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:47
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 478 sfbey 15-Feb-18 02:29
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 473 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 10:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 471 Morten 15-Feb-18 10:47
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 469 Morten 15-Feb-18 12:11
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 484 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 12:28
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 431 Morten 15-Feb-18 17:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 480 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:23
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 444 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:58
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 437 Morten 15-Feb-18 18:53
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 503 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 18:04
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 480 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:17
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 459 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 18:13
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 453 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 470 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:40
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 490 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:08
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 561 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 477 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 15:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 466 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 463 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 473 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 439 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:41
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 456 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:46
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 482 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 17:16
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 453 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:27
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 488 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 18:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 466 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:52
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 476 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 19:03
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 440 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:15
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 487 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 19:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 461 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 464 sfbey 15-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 457 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 452 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:30
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 441 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 461 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 476 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 437 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:56
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 466 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 458 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:19
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 423 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 458 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 451 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:42
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 446 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:53
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 446 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:58
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 460 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 477 sfbey 16-Feb-18 00:03
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 510 Morten 16-Feb-18 06:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 477 Scott Creighton 16-Feb-18 11:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 495 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 11:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 459 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 415 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 435 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 441 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:17
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 398 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 398 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 419 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 471 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 522 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 11:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 524 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 14:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 484 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 468 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 454 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 16:12
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 451 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:25
Curiouser and curiouser 532 Warwick 27-Feb-18 18:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 441 Corpuscles 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 478 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 432 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 441 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 454 Spiros 16-Feb-18 09:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 418 Spiros 16-Feb-18 11:38
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Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 447 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:52
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 437 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:55
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 443 sfbey 16-Feb-18 14:59
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 463 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:13
Thank you n/t 553 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:53
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 481 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:00
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