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RW: Because what is written there is not the number 20. This was already explained to you.

Miatello, a specialist in AE mathematics, thinks it's hieratic '20' - J.P. Allen and Hawass have offered some support to his notion. But you know better because you're more knowledgeable than all those folks, aren't you?

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RW: Besides, you seem to think having an opinion makes the opinion true by virtue of it having been expressed.

There's opinion and there's 'reasoned opinion'. I choose the latter.

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RW: It is my opinion I can stand on the surface of the sun without being harmed in any way.

It is my opinion I can travel faster than the speed of light.

And so on.

It seems then that you clearly choose unreasoned opinion.

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RW:Your opinion has been weighed and measured and found wanting.

That's what it's all about. Problem for you though, and the thing you simply cannot countenance, is there are many who actually agree with my opinion and disagree with yours. That YOU and the other hardcore Egypt fundamentalists here disagree is only to be expected - par for the course, so to speak. A signed affidavit from Vyse that he forged these markings would not convince you of Vyse's guilt and would instead have you finding some way to negate such a proof. You simply will NEVER accept these painted markings are fraudlent under ANY circumstances. I get that - I won't ever convince everyone.

But I don't suspect that is the real issue here - I actually think the issue for you is that anyone should at all have the slightest temerity to even challenge your worldview; in your view you KNOW the truth and that we are all just listen to what we're told by you and those like you, shut up and just eat our cereal. You know - fascist-style. Well, as I've oft said before - hell will freeze over first. Oh and welcome to the real world.

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RW: I could also point out the orientation of the numerals to the signs may not be relative at all, ie not written at the same time. One guy marks nefer, another comes along later and writes a number. This creates doubt in knowing the truth (barring 4500 year old video) of how they were written, and such doubt sinks any opinion you might have showing any sign of validity.

In case it's escaped your attention, I presented a scenario to explain these anomalous orientations of these numbers. The one thing these marks have in abundance is DOUBT. The problem for mainstreamers is that there SHOULDN'T be ANY doubt. But, however much you pretend to yourself there is no doubt, there IS doubt about these marks. And those doubts aren't going to go away any time soon.

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