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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> Vyse has no knowledge of hieratic. He looks as
> these signs as 'painted hieroglyphics'. In his own
> book he calls these painted signs 'hieroglyphics'.
> As such, Vyse probably believed that these signs
> being merely painted hieroglyphics could be read
> from either direction so it simply doesn't matter
> if these particular signs are merely flipped as
> opposed to being rotated. Also, there is no sign
> in these hieratic numbers to give the read
> direction.
>
> It is, imo, Vyse's likely understanding of
> hieroglyphic reading conventions (as opposed to
> hieratic reading conventions) that resulted in
> this rather obvious hieratic number anomaly. It's
> certainly not a mistake an AE scribe would likely
> have made in presenting these numerals.
>
> SC


So how did he so much as recognise the numerals as numerals? Which ex hypothesi he needed to do, in order to use them in numbering the blocks. Not just that. To get the numbers in the right order, he needed to know what they were.

And your copied-from-Alford farrago of copying inscriptions from a secret cache requires him to have been ultra-pedantic in retaining order of writing.

And here you are again, full circle, channelling ancient Egyptian scribes again. I suggest you look at Abusir II: Baugraffiti der Ptahschepses Mastaba. Scribes in such circumstances sometimes did write from left to right.

There is no “mistake” to explain. You have made it up.

M.

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