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Jacob
Please if you are going to quote me, please do it correctly. I said I can, from Ancient Egyptian Archives show direct support for what I profess.

somewhere (maybe in here, of all places)
some Text-ologist of some variety/stripe
knows where to find the reference/quote
wherein the AEs told Plato (via Solon?)
that Atlantis was just the most recent
previous civilization no longer with us
the one he's/we've heard of
- that many have gone before
going back millions of years
and there's nothing that disputes that
only text which is dubious-definitivus
in fact, there's more corroboration for that
if you take into account the full scope
of all texts available worldwide
possibly concerning the era?
otherwise, we're cherry-picking
and that's not responsible science
still we want to take ourselves seriously
but without applying blinders selectively

case and point, for the sake of alacrity/hilarity:
imagine global climate warming warning change wins
and more water in the atmosphere means more clouds
so that "the sky" is permanently overcast for ages...
suddenly, purporters of paradigms can more easily say
the world is flat, and there's no such thing as outer space,
and dare anyone to provide an observation of an alleged star
which of course makes truth-seekers seem like the silly ones
...the angels and overlords think they might wanna see that?
i can only provide a bit of text towards that, at the moment


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Jacob
Surveys of this sort only reflect the ‘as built’ dimensions, not intended dimensions. If you disagree, please provide what irrefutable evidence that exist which would lead anyone to assume any surveyed dimension of G1 are the exact intended dimensions of the Ancient Egyptian builders? That any survey does is an assumption with no irrefutable evidence addressing this conundrum. Therefore the correct answer can only be 'None of them'!

what are the odds that i park my car randomly
in the exact parking space numbered 440 x 280?
...or any such parking spot, even less than perfectly...
which has a serial number of interesting-ish possibilities
now say there's several famous estimations for that number
and where i'm parked, while less than perfectly
just so coincidentally amazingly happens to be
the dead center mean of all synonym values?
suddenly we take ourselves more seriously
as... even the funny ones get respected?
my measures of OCT
line up G3 to Phi
...crickets reign
...fortunately, we always
keep our corners numbered,
for just such an emergency?


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Jacob
So Jim, without knowing the intent of the Ancient Egyptians you, like everyone else, are just guessing and guessing is not science. Fact: No one has yet provided any evidence, let alone irrefutable evidence. supporting the Ancient Egyptians use of pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5. There is no evidence other than yours and others training and ability to find these modern mathematical operators which occur naturally in the mathematics of structures by our current system. As stated many times before: [i[ If one draws a square, the √2 is an inherent value of the diagonal within the square, similarly if one draws a circle then л is the inherent value within the circle relating the diameter to circumference. Is foreknowledge of either of these factors is necessary for the completion of either task.[/i] It seems all of the research being done is directed towards things which cannot be proved like pi, phi, √2, etcetera.


even our noble ("no-bull") Occum's Razor would caution / instruct us:
that in general, the more impressive the engineering or construction
the less likely it is that the inventor came up with it by chance...
now it is true that it is possible to build / design something simple
which has natural symmetries and other interesting thingies about it
that the ideal humble stumbler is not cognizant nor responsible for
and may even remain blissfully unaware of, just not looking for them
but the learning (etc.) curves involved in the shape of a pyramid
keeps klunking n punking one over the head and any thingy else...
so much so that its detractors are accidental backpedaling champs



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Jacob
A couple of years ago I quit looking for what couldn't be prove and started looking for what could be proved regarding the Ancient Egyptians mathematics. Here is a hint: It doesn't reside in our modern mathematical operators like pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5 since they are naturally occurring factors within our current system. As Corinna Rossi determined, from a perspective based on the available evidence strongly indicates the Ancient Egyptians were not aware of our concepts nor did they employ these factors. But I do wish you good luck on your quest to prove otherwise.

- it's almost as if every ancient text
only supports the emerging hypothesis
that the AEs could not possibly have
designed much less built the things
that their culture grew out of the shadow of these things
as does our greater larger modern world, zooming out time
the big picture larger assessment now being self evident
as we note they're models of earth, and all the planets

which it's now only more obvious that the AEs
had an incomplete idea of something we have
...a somewhat different incomplete idea of...
and what they wrote of what they knew is incomplete
seems like "the incomplete" is our greatest challenge

when knowledge = nutrition
then we also become wiser
just go easy on the sweetcakes
don't wanna spoil your dinner

plus all these ancient monuments align to each other
using the same cool / interesting significant numbers
- i think we have permission to give that more weight
than basically hearsay that's been partly discredited?

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 2977 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 444 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 403 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 329 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 380 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 298 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 302 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 298 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 296 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 239 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 253 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 195 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 239 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 283 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 263 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 255 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 257 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 366 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 289 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 293 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 291 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 306 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 288 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 241 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 294 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 272 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 267 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 244 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 282 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 268 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 215 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 273 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 186 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 212 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 214 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 215 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 176 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 182 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 207 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 239 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 190 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 207 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 232 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 165 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 199 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 219 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 212 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 194 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 191 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 218 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 208 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 244 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 181 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 254 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 280 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 243 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 200 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 208 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 264 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 218 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 232 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 195 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 205 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 200 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 200 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 184 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 189 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 237 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 215 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 189 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 188 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 200 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 190 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 201 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 190 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 179 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 202 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 211 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 214 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 207 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 215 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 230 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 243 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 191 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 217 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 214 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 216 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 246 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 193 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 239 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 197 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 226 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 218 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 209 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 227 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 222 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 282 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 225 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 175 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 08:17
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 186 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 280 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 239 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 166 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 173 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 187 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 207 molder 19-Jul-18 11:21
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 237 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 02:32
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 164 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
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Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 72 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 60 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 12:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 50 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 52 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 56 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 63 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 59 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 53 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 75 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 69 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 52 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 58 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 55 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 81 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 62 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 54 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 62 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 55 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 55 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 71 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 44 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 53 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 71 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 64 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 45 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
Re: Pi vs Pudding 48 magisterchessmutt 06-Jan-20 02:58
Re: Pi vs Pudding 46 molder 06-Jan-20 05:26
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