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Jacob
Please if you are going to quote me, please do it correctly. I said I can, from Ancient Egyptian Archives show direct support for what I profess.

somewhere (maybe in here, of all places)
some Text-ologist of some variety/stripe
knows where to find the reference/quote
wherein the AEs told Plato (via Solon?)
that Atlantis was just the most recent
previous civilization no longer with us
the one he's/we've heard of
- that many have gone before
going back millions of years
and there's nothing that disputes that
only text which is dubious-definitivus
in fact, there's more corroboration for that
if you take into account the full scope
of all texts available worldwide
possibly concerning the era?
otherwise, we're cherry-picking
and that's not responsible science
still we want to take ourselves seriously
but without applying blinders selectively

case and point, for the sake of alacrity/hilarity:
imagine global climate warming warning change wins
and more water in the atmosphere means more clouds
so that "the sky" is permanently overcast for ages...
suddenly, purporters of paradigms can more easily say
the world is flat, and there's no such thing as outer space,
and dare anyone to provide an observation of an alleged star
which of course makes truth-seekers seem like the silly ones
...the angels and overlords think they might wanna see that?
i can only provide a bit of text towards that, at the moment


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Jacob
Surveys of this sort only reflect the ‘as built’ dimensions, not intended dimensions. If you disagree, please provide what irrefutable evidence that exist which would lead anyone to assume any surveyed dimension of G1 are the exact intended dimensions of the Ancient Egyptian builders? That any survey does is an assumption with no irrefutable evidence addressing this conundrum. Therefore the correct answer can only be 'None of them'!

what are the odds that i park my car randomly
in the exact parking space numbered 440 x 280?
...or any such parking spot, even less than perfectly...
which has a serial number of interesting-ish possibilities
now say there's several famous estimations for that number
and where i'm parked, while less than perfectly
just so coincidentally amazingly happens to be
the dead center mean of all synonym values?
suddenly we take ourselves more seriously
as... even the funny ones get respected?
my measures of OCT
line up G3 to Phi
...crickets reign
...fortunately, we always
keep our corners numbered,
for just such an emergency?


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Jacob
So Jim, without knowing the intent of the Ancient Egyptians you, like everyone else, are just guessing and guessing is not science. Fact: No one has yet provided any evidence, let alone irrefutable evidence. supporting the Ancient Egyptians use of pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5. There is no evidence other than yours and others training and ability to find these modern mathematical operators which occur naturally in the mathematics of structures by our current system. As stated many times before: [i[ If one draws a square, the √2 is an inherent value of the diagonal within the square, similarly if one draws a circle then л is the inherent value within the circle relating the diameter to circumference. Is foreknowledge of either of these factors is necessary for the completion of either task.[/i] It seems all of the research being done is directed towards things which cannot be proved like pi, phi, √2, etcetera.


even our noble ("no-bull") Occum's Razor would caution / instruct us:
that in general, the more impressive the engineering or construction
the less likely it is that the inventor came up with it by chance...
now it is true that it is possible to build / design something simple
which has natural symmetries and other interesting thingies about it
that the ideal humble stumbler is not cognizant nor responsible for
and may even remain blissfully unaware of, just not looking for them
but the learning (etc.) curves involved in the shape of a pyramid
keeps klunking n punking one over the head and any thingy else...
so much so that its detractors are accidental backpedaling champs



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Jacob
A couple of years ago I quit looking for what couldn't be prove and started looking for what could be proved regarding the Ancient Egyptians mathematics. Here is a hint: It doesn't reside in our modern mathematical operators like pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5 since they are naturally occurring factors within our current system. As Corinna Rossi determined, from a perspective based on the available evidence strongly indicates the Ancient Egyptians were not aware of our concepts nor did they employ these factors. But I do wish you good luck on your quest to prove otherwise.

- it's almost as if every ancient text
only supports the emerging hypothesis
that the AEs could not possibly have
designed much less built the things
that their culture grew out of the shadow of these things
as does our greater larger modern world, zooming out time
the big picture larger assessment now being self evident
as we note they're models of earth, and all the planets

which it's now only more obvious that the AEs
had an incomplete idea of something we have
...a somewhat different incomplete idea of...
and what they wrote of what they knew is incomplete
seems like "the incomplete" is our greatest challenge

when knowledge = nutrition
then we also become wiser
just go easy on the sweetcakes
don't wanna spoil your dinner

plus all these ancient monuments align to each other
using the same cool / interesting significant numbers
- i think we have permission to give that more weight
than basically hearsay that's been partly discredited?

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3067 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 480 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 443 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 347 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 405 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 322 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 332 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 323 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 321 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 268 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 274 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 236 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 262 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 323 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 285 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 283 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 307 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 434 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 316 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 313 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 339 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 331 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 320 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 262 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 326 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 301 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 287 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 262 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 300 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 287 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 235 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 294 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 238 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 236 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 244 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 244 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 226 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 229 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 230 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 275 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 212 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 241 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 258 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 191 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 247 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 246 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 233 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 215 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 209 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 238 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 231 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 281 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 218 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 286 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 308 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 293 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 246 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 237 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 290 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 237 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 254 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 237 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 223 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 219 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 257 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 212 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 211 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 259 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 247 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 210 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 205 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 220 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 230 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 255 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 216 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 206 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 220 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 231 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 256 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 231 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 238 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 262 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 261 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 218 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 252 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 240 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 234 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 295 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 232 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 264 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 248 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 265 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 254 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 230 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 253 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 242 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 307 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 253 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 203 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 313 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 267 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 186 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 217 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 207 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 214 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
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Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 96 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 68 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 70 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 102 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 82 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 84 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 86 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 79 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 84 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 71 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 93 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 90 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 70 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 78 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 74 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 109 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 80 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 76 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 81 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 72 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 73 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 92 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 63 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 73 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 93 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 82 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 67 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
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