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Very well put, Jacob. The difficult thing is as you say...being able to prove it.

True, it doesn't matter that we have certain things that indicate some supernal math abilities by the ancients, it only matters if we can replicate them. I can certainly look at the height of the pyramid against its base and see pi, but how to replicate it?

I can look at the dimensions of the upper and middle chamber and see indications of 360deg and parts of a circle both less than and greater than 360deg, not just as degrees but also inch measures, but how to replicate them?

I can look at the entrance glyph and see simple formulas associated with a circle and a square and indicating pi, but how to replicate it?

I investigate and research and analyze and put together a theory about the pyramid and a couple of its plans and can replicate that over and over again where the pyramid references the cosmos and Earth and circles and pi and phi, but I can't at all say how they did it.

In all these, something is always missing, and it is the book of how they did it all...you may be right...it doesn't matter that we have the thing right before us that says 'yes'; it only matters if there is more than the thing...if there is a book saying how they did it...hmm...quite true...never believe your own eyes as they don't know what they are describing when the eyes can assess something down to its parts. If there are no instructions, the thing does not exist.

I wonder how the ancient Greeks felt that they could not see the parts of an atom let alone the atom, and yet it took over 2,000 years before they were proved right. NOt a fair comparison at all, I admit, but they didn't even have an atom to see to describe...we at least have the pyramid itself.

You say there is a problem with fractions being used to define small parts of numbers, and I do like 628/200 + 1/628 as a good fraction for pi...probably a better formula just as simple to use does exist. That is an easy fraction that can be broken down into a string of fractions ala Egypt style. That fraction doesn't exist though as it isn't recorded in the very few papyri that we refer to as the compendium of ancient Egypt math and astronomy skills. A culture lasting several thousand years only has a few papyri left to show how advanced they weren't. Hmm...does there seem to be a slight problem with not accepting a high culture based upon a lack of written records despite the large edifices they built?

I guess I'll wait to see if anyone does enter the void found by a muon scan technique and wonder how it equates to my analysis identifying where the winter solstice sun is at noon...where the same sun is one hour before dawn in the intersection of descending and ascending passages...why Sirius and Canopus equate to the middle chamber and its niche and the half height of the pyramid...and why the height references the summer solstice sun at dawn. I'll wait because the book might be in that void, and it might show how they did it when we can already see it.

Well, I'll back off now. I don't have a papyrus to point at and say 'See'. All I have is the pyramid to point at.

Cheers and all the best with not-pi

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3179 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 539 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 501 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 403 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 465 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 386 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 388 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 391 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 386 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 326 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 327 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 295 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 326 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 386 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 346 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 344 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 366 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 503 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 380 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 376 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 395 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 395 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 379 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 318 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 395 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 473 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 343 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 322 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 363 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 342 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 295 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 352 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 306 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 299 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 299 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 305 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 278 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 284 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 285 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 337 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 268 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 323 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 336 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 240 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 306 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 305 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 299 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 270 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 260 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 300 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 288 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 345 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 274 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 343 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 365 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 349 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 309 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 303 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 346 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 288 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 313 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 315 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 276 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 279 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 318 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 270 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 265 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 315 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 309 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 274 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 270 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 277 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 304 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 318 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 271 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 271 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 277 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 283 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 312 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 287 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 296 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 338 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 316 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 281 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 308 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 299 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 294 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 350 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 291 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 321 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 308 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 324 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 319 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 288 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 311 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 303 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 378 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 309 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 257 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 08:17
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 254 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 389 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 327 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 244 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 270 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 264 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 370 spaceyhippie 19-Jul-18 10:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 288 molder 19-Jul-18 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 334 Sirfiroth 19-Jul-18 12:05
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 455 spaceyhippie 19-Jul-18 23:57
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 309 DavidK 20-Jul-18 08:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 364 spaceyhippie 20-Jul-18 21:58
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 249 DavidK 22-Jul-18 09:41
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 352 spaceyhippie 23-Jul-18 02:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 287 DavidK 23-Jul-18 08:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 308 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 13:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 283 DavidK 23-Jul-18 22:23
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 401 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 23:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 300 DavidK 24-Jul-18 09:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 246 Sirfiroth 24-Jul-18 13:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 236 DavidK 27-Jul-18 06:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 277 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 15:45
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 337 spaceyhippie 24-Jul-18 02:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 346 DavidK 24-Jul-18 17:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 393 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 310 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 14:36
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 426 spaceyhippie 29-Jul-18 11:01
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 305 DavidK 06-Aug-18 19:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 281 DavidK 07-Aug-18 05:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 287 spaceyhippie 08-Aug-18 09:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 294 DavidK 08-Aug-18 09:39
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 324 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 02:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 349 DavidK 09-Aug-18 08:00
ROTFLMAO! 246 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 13:22
Re: ROTFLMAO! 250 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:12
Re: ROTFLMAO! 285 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
Re: ROTFLMAO! 237 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:49
Re: ROTFLMAO! 244 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 15:03
Re: ROTFLMAO! 260 DavidK 09-Aug-18 21:39
Re: ROTFLMAO! 284 Sirfiroth 10-Aug-18 02:06
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 295 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 20:40
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 352 DavidK 10-Aug-18 07:59
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 361 Steve Clayton 12-Aug-18 18:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 147 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 134 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 03:46
Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 147 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
Re: Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 121 molder 28-Dec-19 10:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 119 DavidK 28-Dec-19 10:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 130 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 Thanos5150 28-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 137 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 21:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 134 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 128 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 02:17
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 125 molder 29-Dec-19 04:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 124 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 12:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 121 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 115 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 14:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 161 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 15:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 118 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 161 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 136 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 139 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 127 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 130 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 127 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 136 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 123 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 137 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 126 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 166 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 130 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 129 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 133 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 125 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 124 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 164 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 113 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 122 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 145 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 131 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 125 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
Re: Pi vs Pudding 156 magisterchessmutt 06-Jan-20 02:58
Re: Pi vs Pudding 116 molder 06-Jan-20 05:26
Re: Pi vs Pudding 124 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 01:32
Re: Pi vs Pudding 114 DavidK 07-Jan-20 02:02
Re: Pi vs Pudding 128 thinkitover 06-Jan-20 06:13
Re: Pi vs Pudding 138 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 02:18
Re: Pi vs Pudding 110 DavidK 07-Jan-20 14:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 123 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 15:16
Re: Pi vs Pudding 122 DavidK 07-Jan-20 19:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 113 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 20:08
Re: Pi vs Pudding 117 DavidK 07-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 DavidK 28-Dec-19 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 138 engbren 28-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 138 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:55
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 126 engbren 29-Dec-19 01:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 126 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 16:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 129 engbren 30-Dec-19 22:23
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 182 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 23:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 149 engbren 31-Dec-19 11:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 133 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:42


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