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Hello Jacob

You might have to reread the post, as you surely pose and ask questions that I have written about in the post...

You ask/say: "Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?"

And right underneath that - where you quote me - I say how time was measured according to the distances and the upright sticks and when the Sun is overhead at one stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, then when it is over another stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, etc etc. ANd would you believe that in a full day, the Earth has turned, the Sun has altered its location a little, but still the same process can be repeated by having the line of sticks in the appropriate place and still the Sun will shine directly over sticks and cast no shadows and everything has a measure...

...and now you can turn degrees, minutes and seconds into seconds, minutes and hours.

How?

Well, you bloody well do the math until you find that 60 is a bloody good number as minutes/seconds for time and distance. And then you discover that you can have 360o that goes nicely into 24 hours.

So now you have a length of distance that equates to a length of time, all based upon the Sun...

...ah, but what next, you ask?

Well, you say to yourself that 'Geez...you know, I have this measure going from here to there and it takes the Sun 'this' to go from here to there, so the Earth must be about so-big...and if it is so big, then that measure can be broken down into time-parts and distance parts, and there must be something associated with it that combines the two besides '60' and 360 and 24...

...and blow me down but now I have something associated to a circle that is based upon a measure of time over a measure of distance, and I think I have a little formula I can make up from knowing that just to make things simple for others to follow.

Why make it simple? Because it is too bloody hard to explain how to set out a line and sticks and watch the Sun play with shadows and make a measure according to feet or eyelashes or elbow-fingertips or pebbles or rods or a stone's-throw or a frog's jump or anything that I care to equate the measures of Sun and shadows to, which offers up a good Earth-size and doesn't it make you wonder how the world turns each and every day with the Sun going over...and sheesh! But here comes the moon at night. Let me try it again and see what happens.

So...'time' to rethink pi...as in time is the very first foundation for measure, according to days, parts of days, and the Earth turning in a circle.

Yeah...I think that kind of knowledge is probably 2 - 3 hundred thousand years old...but at some stage someone did a little bit more calculating and did something miraculous with that knowledge: he actually measured it and gave the measure a name...then fine-tuned it to become what the ancients had: systems based on 6s, 10s, 24s, 60s and 360. Do you really think it suddenly sprung up around 4,000 BCE?

As far as I am concerned, it was well known before 12,000 BCE.

So...go make your measure of a circle in a straight line and watch the Sun reveal a secret...

...or keep going round in circles about the centre that is right there, plain as sight, and always look outwards but don't look inwards. Everyone else looks outwards, so why not keep the trend going, hey?

As always, written in good faith :)

And a big bloody CHEERS! I'm going to have a beer and smile at myself for being such a twat.

Andrew

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 2981 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 445 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 404 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 329 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 380 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 298 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 302 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 298 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 297 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 239 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 253 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 196 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 240 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 283 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 264 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 255 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 258 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 368 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 289 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 293 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 291 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 307 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 288 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 241 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 295 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 272 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 268 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 245 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 282 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 268 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 215 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 274 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 187 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 213 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 216 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 215 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 177 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 183 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 207 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 240 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 190 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 207 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 232 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 165 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 199 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 222 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 213 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 194 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 191 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 219 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 208 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 244 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 181 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 255 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 281 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 244 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 200 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 209 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 267 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 218 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 233 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 196 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 205 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 201 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 200 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 185 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 191 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 237 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 218 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 189 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 188 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 200 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 190 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 201 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 190 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 179 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 202 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 211 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 214 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 207 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 216 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 230 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 243 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 191 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 217 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 214 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 216 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 249 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 193 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 239 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 197 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 227 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 219 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 210 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 227 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 223 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 282 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 225 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 175 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 08:17
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 186 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 280 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 239 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 166 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 174 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 187 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 208 molder 19-Jul-18 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 252 Sirfiroth 19-Jul-18 12:05
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 300 spaceyhippie 19-Jul-18 23:57
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 212 DavidK 20-Jul-18 08:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 270 spaceyhippie 20-Jul-18 21:58
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 167 DavidK 22-Jul-18 09:41
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 265 spaceyhippie 23-Jul-18 02:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 210 DavidK 23-Jul-18 08:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 213 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 13:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 196 DavidK 23-Jul-18 22:23
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 200 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 23:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 211 DavidK 24-Jul-18 09:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 168 Sirfiroth 24-Jul-18 13:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 154 DavidK 27-Jul-18 06:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 191 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 15:45
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 252 spaceyhippie 24-Jul-18 02:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 245 DavidK 24-Jul-18 17:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 270 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 238 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 14:36
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 331 spaceyhippie 29-Jul-18 11:01
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 221 DavidK 06-Aug-18 19:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 186 DavidK 07-Aug-18 05:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 216 spaceyhippie 08-Aug-18 09:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 213 DavidK 08-Aug-18 09:39
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 237 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 02:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 262 DavidK 09-Aug-18 08:00
ROTFLMAO! 174 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 13:22
Re: ROTFLMAO! 171 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:12
Re: ROTFLMAO! 165 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
Re: ROTFLMAO! 165 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:49
Re: ROTFLMAO! 171 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 15:03
Re: ROTFLMAO! 173 DavidK 09-Aug-18 21:39
Re: ROTFLMAO! 199 Sirfiroth 10-Aug-18 02:06
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 215 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 20:40
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 239 DavidK 10-Aug-18 07:59
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 278 Steve Clayton 12-Aug-18 18:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 79 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 67 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 03:46
Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 72 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
Re: Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 55 molder 28-Dec-19 10:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 53 DavidK 28-Dec-19 10:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 77 Thanos5150 28-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 64 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 21:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 60 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 02:17
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 55 molder 29-Dec-19 04:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 60 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 12:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 50 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 52 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 14:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 51 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 15:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 52 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 56 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 63 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 59 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 53 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 75 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 69 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 52 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 58 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 55 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 82 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 62 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 54 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 62 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 55 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 56 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 71 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 45 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 53 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 72 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 64 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 45 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
Re: Pi vs Pudding 48 magisterchessmutt 06-Jan-20 02:58
Re: Pi vs Pudding 46 molder 06-Jan-20 05:26
Re: Pi vs Pudding 50 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 01:32
Re: Pi vs Pudding 43 DavidK 07-Jan-20 02:02
Re: Pi vs Pudding 63 thinkitover 06-Jan-20 06:13
Re: Pi vs Pudding 68 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 02:18
Re: Pi vs Pudding 43 DavidK 07-Jan-20 14:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 53 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 15:16
Re: Pi vs Pudding 59 DavidK 07-Jan-20 19:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 46 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 20:08
Re: Pi vs Pudding 52 DavidK 07-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 72 DavidK 28-Dec-19 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 65 engbren 28-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 73 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:55
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 62 engbren 29-Dec-19 01:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 57 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 16:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 58 engbren 30-Dec-19 22:23
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 81 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 23:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 75 engbren 31-Dec-19 11:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 66 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:42

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