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Hi Drew,

drew Wrote:
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> Hello Jacob
>
> Forget equations for a moment...as surely we can
> add enough fractions together and apart to define
> pi probably down to its millionth part, and the
> AEs knew what 'millions' were.

Yes, but did the Ancient Egyptians know and or use pi?
>
> What about scale?
>
> Anyone can make a perfect circle using a
> pivot-point and something to extend from that
> point, and just turn about the pivot-point.

If you drive a stake in the ground attach a rope to it and draw a circle, you have two component parts of the equation. We know the distance between the two stakes is radius which requires 2 pi to calculate the circumference. Or is pi even necessary? So how do you measure or calculate the ratio between the two?

>
> What if I double the extension? Triple it? Go out
> four hundred and 19 feet and the width of my
> eyelash?

As with all geometric formulas length is irrelevant. Quite simply multiply the radius length eight times: this produces a square perimeter: dividing the perimeter by the rise run of G1 14/11 provides the circumference with a reflecting equivalent pi value of 22/7. i.e. 280 x 8 = 2240, 2240 / 14/11 = 1760 pi not necessary.

>
> What if I get several perfectly formed,
> square-edged sticks all the same length, and place
> them on the edges of the circle so that the Sun
> passes right over them and they cast no shadows
> upon the ground...and I measure the time it takes
> for no shadow to appear on one stick of a circle
> and then not appear on the other stick. And I do
> this to the four circles I have made.

Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?

>
> I know the diameters of the circles, and now I can
> equate their sizes to how much time passes in
> shadow-creations because I have made the circles
> all from the same pivot-point...and strung a
> simple line across all the upright sticks...and
> can measure the distances between the sticks and
> show that 'time' equals the Sun moving 'x'
> distances according to my circles and their sticks
> and shadows not being cast.
>
> Have another think about a process for laying out
> the foundations of temples and such, where the
> Pharaoh or High Priest uses a string line to
> measure against the stars...or a star...or a
> certain source of light.

I have laid out many foundations in my time and orientation is paramount. The most unusual and the one that sticks in my memory was because of small architectural error it was necessary to incorporate a 7 degree bend in the hallway leading to in order to accommodate the owner being able to lay in bed and view the north star through a skylight. Which was a lot of geometry for a minor glitch, (actual angle to be determined), note of the architectural site plans provided for the home.

> Maybe its time we rethink pi.

What is there to rethink? I am all for the Ancient Egyptians having used pi as it salvages many of my own theories. All we need is anything from them noting deliberate use of pi. Remember just because we find pi in one of their structures is no indication the Ancient Egyptians were aware of it.

Regards,
Jacob

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3195 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 549 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 511 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 415 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 476 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 400 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 399 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 400 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 399 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 337 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 340 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 306 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 339 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 398 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 356 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 357 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 376 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 518 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 387 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 388 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 409 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 411 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 396 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 333 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 412 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 489 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 361 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 333 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 374 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 354 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 308 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 364 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 319 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 310 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 313 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 313 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 290 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 297 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 294 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 350 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 281 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 347 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 349 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 249 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 323 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 314 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 310 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 284 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 273 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 313 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 298 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 358 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 287 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 353 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 383 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 364 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 321 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 320 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 359 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 298 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 324 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 328 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 285 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 288 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 333 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 286 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 275 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 329 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 326 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 285 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 285 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 293 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 320 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 332 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 281 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 285 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 286 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
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Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 323 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 296 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 310 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 327 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 296 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 318 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 314 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 309 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 306 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 265 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 281 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 274 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 310 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 270 DavidK 09-Aug-18 21:39
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 309 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 20:40
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 148 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 155 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 148 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 136 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
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Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
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Re: Pi vs Pudding 143 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
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LOL, now that was hilarious ! 134 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 175 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 124 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 133 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 153 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 144 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
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