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Hi Drew,

drew Wrote:
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> Hello Jacob
>
> Forget equations for a moment...as surely we can
> add enough fractions together and apart to define
> pi probably down to its millionth part, and the
> AEs knew what 'millions' were.

Yes, but did the Ancient Egyptians know and or use pi?
>
> What about scale?
>
> Anyone can make a perfect circle using a
> pivot-point and something to extend from that
> point, and just turn about the pivot-point.

If you drive a stake in the ground attach a rope to it and draw a circle, you have two component parts of the equation. We know the distance between the two stakes is radius which requires 2 pi to calculate the circumference. Or is pi even necessary? So how do you measure or calculate the ratio between the two?

>
> What if I double the extension? Triple it? Go out
> four hundred and 19 feet and the width of my
> eyelash?

As with all geometric formulas length is irrelevant. Quite simply multiply the radius length eight times: this produces a square perimeter: dividing the perimeter by the rise run of G1 14/11 provides the circumference with a reflecting equivalent pi value of 22/7. i.e. 280 x 8 = 2240, 2240 / 14/11 = 1760 pi not necessary.

>
> What if I get several perfectly formed,
> square-edged sticks all the same length, and place
> them on the edges of the circle so that the Sun
> passes right over them and they cast no shadows
> upon the ground...and I measure the time it takes
> for no shadow to appear on one stick of a circle
> and then not appear on the other stick. And I do
> this to the four circles I have made.

Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?

>
> I know the diameters of the circles, and now I can
> equate their sizes to how much time passes in
> shadow-creations because I have made the circles
> all from the same pivot-point...and strung a
> simple line across all the upright sticks...and
> can measure the distances between the sticks and
> show that 'time' equals the Sun moving 'x'
> distances according to my circles and their sticks
> and shadows not being cast.
>
> Have another think about a process for laying out
> the foundations of temples and such, where the
> Pharaoh or High Priest uses a string line to
> measure against the stars...or a star...or a
> certain source of light.

I have laid out many foundations in my time and orientation is paramount. The most unusual and the one that sticks in my memory was because of small architectural error it was necessary to incorporate a 7 degree bend in the hallway leading to in order to accommodate the owner being able to lay in bed and view the north star through a skylight. Which was a lot of geometry for a minor glitch, (actual angle to be determined), note of the architectural site plans provided for the home.

> Maybe its time we rethink pi.

What is there to rethink? I am all for the Ancient Egyptians having used pi as it salvages many of my own theories. All we need is anything from them noting deliberate use of pi. Remember just because we find pi in one of their structures is no indication the Ancient Egyptians were aware of it.

Regards,
Jacob

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 2970 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 443 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 401 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 328 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 379 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 296 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 301 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 297 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 294 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 238 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 252 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 193 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 238 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 282 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 262 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 254 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 256 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 365 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 288 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 290 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 290 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 305 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 285 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 240 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 293 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 270 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 266 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 242 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 280 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 266 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 214 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 272 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 185 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 210 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 212 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 214 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 175 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 181 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 205 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 238 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 189 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 206 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 230 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 162 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 197 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 217 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 210 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 193 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 190 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 216 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 207 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 243 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 180 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 253 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 279 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 241 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 199 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 207 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 263 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 216 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 231 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 194 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 204 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 199 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 199 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 183 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 188 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 236 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 212 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 188 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 187 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 199 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
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Re: No pie for jacob 199 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
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Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 213 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
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Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 213 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 242 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 172 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 186 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 62 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 63 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 58 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
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Re: Pi vs Pudding 56 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
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Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 43 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 52 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
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