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Hi Drew,

drew Wrote:
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> Hello Jacob
>
> Forget equations for a moment...as surely we can
> add enough fractions together and apart to define
> pi probably down to its millionth part, and the
> AEs knew what 'millions' were.

Yes, but did the Ancient Egyptians know and or use pi?
>
> What about scale?
>
> Anyone can make a perfect circle using a
> pivot-point and something to extend from that
> point, and just turn about the pivot-point.

If you drive a stake in the ground attach a rope to it and draw a circle, you have two component parts of the equation. We know the distance between the two stakes is radius which requires 2 pi to calculate the circumference. Or is pi even necessary? So how do you measure or calculate the ratio between the two?

>
> What if I double the extension? Triple it? Go out
> four hundred and 19 feet and the width of my
> eyelash?

As with all geometric formulas length is irrelevant. Quite simply multiply the radius length eight times: this produces a square perimeter: dividing the perimeter by the rise run of G1 14/11 provides the circumference with a reflecting equivalent pi value of 22/7. i.e. 280 x 8 = 2240, 2240 / 14/11 = 1760 pi not necessary.

>
> What if I get several perfectly formed,
> square-edged sticks all the same length, and place
> them on the edges of the circle so that the Sun
> passes right over them and they cast no shadows
> upon the ground...and I measure the time it takes
> for no shadow to appear on one stick of a circle
> and then not appear on the other stick. And I do
> this to the four circles I have made.

Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?

>
> I know the diameters of the circles, and now I can
> equate their sizes to how much time passes in
> shadow-creations because I have made the circles
> all from the same pivot-point...and strung a
> simple line across all the upright sticks...and
> can measure the distances between the sticks and
> show that 'time' equals the Sun moving 'x'
> distances according to my circles and their sticks
> and shadows not being cast.
>
> Have another think about a process for laying out
> the foundations of temples and such, where the
> Pharaoh or High Priest uses a string line to
> measure against the stars...or a star...or a
> certain source of light.

I have laid out many foundations in my time and orientation is paramount. The most unusual and the one that sticks in my memory was because of small architectural error it was necessary to incorporate a 7 degree bend in the hallway leading to in order to accommodate the owner being able to lay in bed and view the north star through a skylight. Which was a lot of geometry for a minor glitch, (actual angle to be determined), note of the architectural site plans provided for the home.

> Maybe its time we rethink pi.

What is there to rethink? I am all for the Ancient Egyptians having used pi as it salvages many of my own theories. All we need is anything from them noting deliberate use of pi. Remember just because we find pi in one of their structures is no indication the Ancient Egyptians were aware of it.

Regards,
Jacob

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3068 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 482 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 444 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 349 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 407 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 324 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 333 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 324 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 323 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 269 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 276 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 237 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 264 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 326 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 287 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 285 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 309 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 435 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 318 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 315 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 341 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 333 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 321 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 263 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 327 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 302 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 289 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 264 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 302 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 289 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 238 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 296 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 241 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 237 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 246 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 246 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 228 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 231 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 232 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 279 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 213 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 242 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 259 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 192 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 248 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 247 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 235 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 216 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 211 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 239 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 232 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 283 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 221 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 287 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 310 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 296 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 247 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 240 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 291 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 240 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 255 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 238 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 225 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 221 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 259 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 214 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 213 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 260 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 249 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 212 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 207 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 221 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 232 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 256 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 217 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
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Re: No pie for jacob 222 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 232 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 257 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 235 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 239 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 263 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 219 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 254 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 242 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 235 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 218 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 208 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 81 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
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Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 66 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 75 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
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