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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Remember this is Femano, and the games he plays,
> and his nonsense about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being
> the whole Memphite area.
>
> He has before now cited Stadelmann on this
> (certainly misrepresenting him). He gave the
> impression that he could wheel out other Big
> Names, while being noticably evasive when called
> on to support his claim.

He is taking what I said out of context no different than he has with Maraouard and others to try and twist it into some kind of credible support for his beliefs when in reality nothing could be farther from the truth. One can infer whatever, but it is by no means an endorsement. To note the inherent ambiguity of the Merer diary is not to support one belief or the other, just stating the facts, which this lot would be much better sticking to instead of stumbling and bumbling all over themselves from one nonsensical naysaying to the next.

> As in the remainder of what I wrote, I’m
> following the determinatives and the inscriptional
> context, so it is about the hieroglyphs. I want
> what Femano pretends to want: to understand the
> evidential basis of what is clearly the current
> informed consensus.

> The invariable presence of the pyramid
> determinative suggests that whatever is named is
> at least centred on the pyramid. In Merer
> we find 3ḫt Ḫwfw with the pyramid only,
> while the references suggest that more than just
> the pyramid is named. Possibly the pyramid
> complex: pyramid plus temples plus causeway plus
> harbour? What should be excluded is crazy stuff
> about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being the whole Memphite
> area.

Agreed. 100%.

> Possibly in later times (and with the right
> determinatives) the whole Giza necropolis. Some
> reading to do.

Though he suggest this was the original meaning, Giulio Magli has some interesting thoughts on this:
Akhet Khufu: archaeo-astronomical hints at a common project of the two main pyramids of Giza, Egypt.



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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3084 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 472 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 352 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 380 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 352 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 396 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 353 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 316 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 296 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 321 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 253 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 279 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 276 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 330 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 299 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 285 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 252 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 287 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 293 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 279 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 324 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 237 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 182 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 262 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 229 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 292 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 225 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 262 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 281 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 205 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 342 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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not rocket science 167 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
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ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 193 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
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a mindblowing AE innovation 165 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 229 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 212 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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abstraction 184 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 177 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 221 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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