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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > A list of one? With respect to Thanos, this is
> > not quite the level of expertise in hieroglyphs I
> > was looking for—but let’t go with it.
>
> Which we both know is none. I assume Origyptian
> cites me for my erudition and objectivity at large
> knowing I would not say such a thing if I did not
> have scholarly reason regardless of whether or not
> I am an expert in hieroglyphs. He could do worse.

Remember this is Femano, and the games he plays, and his nonsense about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being the whole Memphite area.

He has before now cited Stadelmann on this (certainly misrepresenting him). He gave the impression that he could wheel out other Big Names, while being noticably evasive when called on to support his claim.

> > Akhet Khufu is not just the name of the
> > pyramid. No question here that it is the name of
> > the pyramid. The necropolis of the pyramid
> > has the same name. By “necropolis of the
> > pyramid” he presumably means the pyramid complex
> > plus adjacent cemeteries. So far, so good.
>
> This is our state of understanding of what it
> means is it not? It does not require an expertise
> in hieroglyphs to understand such things, just an
> understanding of those that do.

As in the remainder of what I wrote, I’m following the determinatives and the inscriptional context, so it is about the hieroglyphs. I want what Femano pretends to want: to understand the evidential basis of what is clearly the current informed consensus.

The invariable presence of the pyramid determinative suggests that whatever is named is at least centred on the pyramid. In Merer we find 3ḫt Ḫwfw with the pyramid only, while the references suggest that more than just the pyramid is named. Possibly the pyramid complex: pyramid plus temples plus causeway plus harbour? What should be excluded is crazy stuff about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being the whole Memphite area. Possibly in later times (and with the right determinatives) the whole Giza necropolis. Some reading to do.

M.

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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 302 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 242 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 234 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 256 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 258 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 302 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 281 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 264 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 267 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 208 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 241 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 181 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 306 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 167 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
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a mindblowing AE innovation 144 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 204 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 188 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
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Re: ADD; add 192 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
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Re: ADD 192 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 157 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 152 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 196 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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