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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > A list of one? With respect to Thanos, this is
> > not quite the level of expertise in hieroglyphs I
> > was looking for—but let’t go with it.
>
> Which we both know is none. I assume Origyptian
> cites me for my erudition and objectivity at large
> knowing I would not say such a thing if I did not
> have scholarly reason regardless of whether or not
> I am an expert in hieroglyphs. He could do worse.

Remember this is Femano, and the games he plays, and his nonsense about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being the whole Memphite area.

He has before now cited Stadelmann on this (certainly misrepresenting him). He gave the impression that he could wheel out other Big Names, while being noticably evasive when called on to support his claim.

> > Akhet Khufu is not just the name of the
> > pyramid. No question here that it is the name of
> > the pyramid. The necropolis of the pyramid
> > has the same name. By “necropolis of the
> > pyramid” he presumably means the pyramid complex
> > plus adjacent cemeteries. So far, so good.
>
> This is our state of understanding of what it
> means is it not? It does not require an expertise
> in hieroglyphs to understand such things, just an
> understanding of those that do.

As in the remainder of what I wrote, I’m following the determinatives and the inscriptional context, so it is about the hieroglyphs. I want what Femano pretends to want: to understand the evidential basis of what is clearly the current informed consensus.

The invariable presence of the pyramid determinative suggests that whatever is named is at least centred on the pyramid. In Merer we find 3ḫt Ḫwfw with the pyramid only, while the references suggest that more than just the pyramid is named. Possibly the pyramid complex: pyramid plus temples plus causeway plus harbour? What should be excluded is crazy stuff about 3ḫt Ḫwfw being the whole Memphite area. Possibly in later times (and with the right determinatives) the whole Giza necropolis. Some reading to do.

M.

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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 261 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 247 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 217 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 211 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 218 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 234 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 270 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 239 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 243 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 205 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 226 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 239 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 217 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 180 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 217 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 205 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 154 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 268 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 144 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
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a mindblowing AE innovation 124 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 125 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 177 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 157 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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Re: ADD 176 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 123 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 133 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 175 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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