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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Well, just the latest example:
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> As I said, you seem to be missing some posts here.

The fact is that the Merrer Diary says nothing about pyramid construction. But it does speak specifically of dike building. Yes, stone is being transported to Akhet Khufu, which is the name of the pyramid, but it is also the name of the pyramid's necropolis which includes its associated port. It is both pyramid and place. Merer's diary says:

Day 10: Cast off from Tura, moor in Akhet-Khufu.

Is he mooring "inside" the Great Pyramid? No. Again, Akhet Khufu is a name of a place, not just a pyramid which among other things includes the very port he is mooring at.

Despite several trips taking stone to the Akhet Khufu complex there is no mention of pyramid building or anything related to what the stone is to be used for not to mention he is not hauling "blocks" or the "splendid casings of Akhet Khufu", just nondescript stone. This is not an argument for one opinion or another, but rather a statement of fact and ultimately why Mourard says we need to exercise "caution" in assigning these stones use as casing stones. If this stone were actually used for pyramid construction, the omission of anything related to such work is hard to reconcile particularly when something as mundane as dike building takes such precedent with Merer's time.



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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 297 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 346 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 273 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 274 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 226 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 221 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 241 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 243 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 286 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 258 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 252 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 215 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 249 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 255 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 270 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 201 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 153 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 225 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 191 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 247 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 190 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 227 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 230 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 167 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 284 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 170 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 194 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
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ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 153 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
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a mindblowing AE innovation 129 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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If I may offer a numerical example 174 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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abstraction 134 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 139 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 185 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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