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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Well, just the latest example:
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> As I said, you seem to be missing some posts here.

The fact is that the Merrer Diary says nothing about pyramid construction. But it does speak specifically of dike building. Yes, stone is being transported to Akhet Khufu, which is the name of the pyramid, but it is also the name of the pyramid's necropolis which includes its associated port. It is both pyramid and place. Merer's diary says:

Day 10: Cast off from Tura, moor in Akhet-Khufu.

Is he mooring "inside" the Great Pyramid? No. Again, Akhet Khufu is a name of a place, not just a pyramid which among other things includes the very port he is mooring at.

Despite several trips taking stone to the Akhet Khufu complex there is no mention of pyramid building or anything related to what the stone is to be used for not to mention he is not hauling "blocks" or the "splendid casings of Akhet Khufu", just nondescript stone. This is not an argument for one opinion or another, but rather a statement of fact and ultimately why Mourard says we need to exercise "caution" in assigning these stones use as casing stones. If this stone were actually used for pyramid construction, the omission of anything related to such work is hard to reconcile particularly when something as mundane as dike building takes such precedent with Merer's time.



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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 301 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 293 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 241 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 233 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 255 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 257 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 300 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 280 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 262 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 227 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 286 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 215 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 164 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 242 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 266 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 207 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 240 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 243 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 180 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 305 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 208 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
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If I may offer a numerical example 188 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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abstraction 156 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
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