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WonderWho Wrote:
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> Jon's algo "would" not generate the results he
> expects.
>
>
> Colors are defined in many computer languages on
> the red,green,blue scale. For example, in
> javascript, black = rgb(0,0,0) and white =
> rgb(255,255,255)
>
> Assume we get data on dogs pigmentation on this
> rgb scale. Then a dog with a pigmentation of
> rgb(0,0,1) would fail the 'is the dog black' test.
> An a dog with a pigmentation of rgb(255,255,254)
> would fail the 'is the dog white' test.
>
> The only way for Jon's algo to work would be for a
> user to provide their definitions of black and
> white on the rgb scale
>
> The color card sorting example is not relevant
> either as the color of the cards will always
> either be rgb(255,0,0) or rgb(0,0,0).

Algorithm processes and decisions need only be numerically quantified if they are to be used in the design of a digital electronic circuit.

If the algorithm is to be used in a directly analog decision making process then there is no need for numerical quantification.

Algorithms exist in many fields outside of digital computing.

For example, see below, an algorithm designed as a systems trouble shooting aid.
No quantification and machine compatible encoding of process descriptions are required as the user interface is directly human.

It's a page in a book. Written in English. No digital processing required.

In the case of the 'dog' algorithm the written words 'black' and 'white' serve to describe what is black and white.
No digital computing. No quantification required.





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 24-Jan-18 15:32 by Jon Ellison.

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