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cladking Wrote:
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> Determinatives are presumed to simply be words
> that are used to explain a thought or sentence.
> It would have been used as a determinative for
> "pyramid" whenever it was first used to mean
> "pyramid".

They're saying the glyph is an actual pictoglyph; it represents the physical object it looks like.
Then I wonder why they didn't just attach the glyph to the name, + Khufu

> I don't know when the first attestation of the
> word is.

No one on this board knows. They just skip merrily along believing whatever a well known Egyptologist says. Don't ask questions, don't look for it, just accept it because someone in authority said so, and they wouldn't be an authority if they didn't know everything about the subject, so why bother to question it. Besides it's much easier to pretend to be an armchair expert if you quote the authorities. See how much I know, I know what so and so said. And so by mere association, one becomes authoritative, an expert to be applauded and admired. That's your problem ck, you're using yourself as a reference, not an authority. You're not repeating what some authority has said, therefore you're nuts. The pods will never think you're knowledgeable as long as you think for yourself.

He who knows all the answers has not been asked all the questions - Confucius

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3067 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 463 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 355 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 342 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 371 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 344 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 386 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 345 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 307 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 283 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 306 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 256 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 246 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 267 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 269 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 315 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 294 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 275 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 241 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 278 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 284 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 252 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 315 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 229 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 174 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 256 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 219 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 281 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 220 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 255 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 272 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 195 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 327 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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Re: Progeria 198 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
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Re: Progeria 203 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
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Re: Progeria 290 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 227 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 195 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 222 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
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Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 172 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 157 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 222 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 202 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
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ADD 303 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
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Re: ADD; add 208 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
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Re: ADD 215 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 173 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 167 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 212 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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