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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Playing on the ambiguity of “interpretation”,
> just like Creighton. It’s not
> “interpretation”, it’s translation,
> something beyond your competence to assess.

It's beyond my competence as well but I know a circular argument when I see it.

They're all the same; they start with an assumption and without ever citing any supporting facts at all they reason to the assumption.

Without supporting facts reason means nothing. Everybody can see his own beliefs.

"Et als" carry no weight at all. "Et als" are just another opinion. This is why when alts ask for facts they get opinion and reading lists rather than facts.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 2999 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 443 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 325 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 319 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 333 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 305 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 354 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 284 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 287 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 259 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 283 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 231 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 226 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 246 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 248 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 293 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 270 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 257 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 220 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 256 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 262 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 242 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 227 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 276 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 207 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 158 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 232 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 200 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 257 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 198 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 233 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 236 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 172 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 295 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 295 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 183 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 179 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 176 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 168 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 177 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 193 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 181 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 259 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 201 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 175 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 200 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 228 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 220 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 217 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 226 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 235 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 218 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 277 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 220 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 282 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 201 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 239 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 222 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 182 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 191 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 176 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 188 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 182 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 206 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 142 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 229 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 208 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 276 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 227 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 211 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 233 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 209 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 235 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 202 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 191 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 238 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 243 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 221 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 223 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 182 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 182 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 247 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 202 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 154 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 274 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 236 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 162 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 174 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 195 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 170 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 168 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 170 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 249 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 251 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 11:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 206 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 221 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 163 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 208 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 195 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 267 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 222 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 237 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 188 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 13:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 23:31
Re: Et Al Mountain. 174 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 00:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 146 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 168 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 144 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 178 Audrey 19-Jan-18 17:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 181 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 206 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 176 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 176 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 272 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 171 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 166 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 146 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 137 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 178 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 146 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 156 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 122 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 99 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 148 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 00:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 211 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 109 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 160 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 167 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 149 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 178 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 151 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 172 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 100 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 167 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 192 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 166 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 131 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 162 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 173 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 181 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 133 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 135 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 123 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 147 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 160 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 94 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 151 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 168 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 140 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 137 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 20:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 177 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 160 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 139 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 185 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 126 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 173 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 167 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 23:31
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 193 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 154 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 165 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 168 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 203 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 198 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 156 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 204 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 188 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 143 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 135 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 196 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 211 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 144 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 179 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 218 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 189 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 212 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 223 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 153 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 173 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 169 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 160 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 201 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 139 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 152 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 136 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 111 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 229 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 226 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 276 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
Re: ADD 248 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 14:50
Re: ADD; add 185 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 243 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
Re: ADD 201 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:58
Re: ADD 193 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:33
Re: ADD 192 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 18:52
Re: ADD 143 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 184 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
Re: ADD 165 cladking 25-Jan-18 20:38
Re: ADD 168 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
Re: ADD 183 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 23:09
Re: ADD 185 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 141 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 145 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 189 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 235 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
Re: ADD 196 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:42
Re: ADD 147 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 228 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 146 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 179 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 274 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 181 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 111 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14