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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Playing on the ambiguity of “interpretation”,
> just like Creighton. It’s not
> “interpretation”, it’s translation,
> something beyond your competence to assess.

It's beyond my competence as well but I know a circular argument when I see it.

They're all the same; they start with an assumption and without ever citing any supporting facts at all they reason to the assumption.

Without supporting facts reason means nothing. Everybody can see his own beliefs.

"Et als" carry no weight at all. "Et als" are just another opinion. This is why when alts ask for facts they get opinion and reading lists rather than facts.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3058 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 460 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 352 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 339 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 368 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 341 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 381 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 341 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 304 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 280 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 303 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 252 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 242 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 264 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 265 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 310 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 289 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 272 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 238 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 275 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 280 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 259 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 248 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 312 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 224 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 171 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 251 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 215 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 277 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 216 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 252 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 268 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 191 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 321 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 335 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 200 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 217 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 195 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 185 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 198 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 211 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 201 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 284 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 224 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 190 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 218 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 267 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 241 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 235 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 213 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 256 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 252 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 256 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 290 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 237 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 301 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 239 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 219 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 257 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 218 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 216 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 204 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 195 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 200 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 223 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 158 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 248 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 227 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 299 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 246 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 227 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 253 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 226 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 257 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 220 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 209 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 214 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 258 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 208 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 278 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 325 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 240 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 201 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 263 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 216 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 222 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 172 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 301 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 262 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 177 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 204 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 192 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 213 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 188 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 192 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 228 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 265 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 292 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 11:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 225 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 241 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 250 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 180 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 223 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 285 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 252 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 263 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 213 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 13:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 169 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 23:31
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 00:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 179 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 162 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 204 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 205 Audrey 19-Jan-18 17:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 199 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 195 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 170 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 224 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 296 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 187 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 182 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 163 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 195 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 169 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 137 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 117 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 175 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 166 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 00:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 125 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 181 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 199 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 185 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 163 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 204 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 172 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 118 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 211 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 209 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 150 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 188 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 206 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 216 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 154 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 143 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 225 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 110 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 166 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 188 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 20:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 207 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 180 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 155 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 209 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 144 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 192 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 193 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 23:31
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 225 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 189 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 182 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 187 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 228 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 216 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 174 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 221 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 219 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 163 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 154 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 219 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 241 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 217 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 199 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 246 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 210 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 241 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 247 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 177 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 197 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 190 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 181 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 220 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 159 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 171 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 171 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 129 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 250 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 245 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 242 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 265 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 300 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
Re: ADD 272 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 14:50
Re: ADD; add 204 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 272 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
Re: ADD 224 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:58
Re: ADD 218 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:33
Re: ADD 213 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 18:52
Re: ADD 162 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 205 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
Re: ADD 185 cladking 25-Jan-18 20:38
Re: ADD 195 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
Re: ADD 209 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 23:09
Re: ADD 207 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 166 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 164 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 205 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 263 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
Re: ADD 239 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:42
Re: ADD 168 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 248 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 208 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 266 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 167 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 172 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 127 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14