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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Playing on the ambiguity of “interpretation”,
> just like Creighton. It’s not
> “interpretation”, it’s translation,
> something beyond your competence to assess.

It's beyond my competence as well but I know a circular argument when I see it.

They're all the same; they start with an assumption and without ever citing any supporting facts at all they reason to the assumption.

Without supporting facts reason means nothing. Everybody can see his own beliefs.

"Et als" carry no weight at all. "Et als" are just another opinion. This is why when alts ask for facts they get opinion and reading lists rather than facts.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 2901 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 417 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 304 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 287 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 291 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 279 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 321 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 250 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 266 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 224 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 241 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 212 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 206 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 213 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 230 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 234 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 238 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 199 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 222 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 224 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 213 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 206 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 227 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 185 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 137 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 209 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 164 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 212 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 175 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 211 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 195 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 149 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 259 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 259 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 155 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 154 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 156 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 149 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 156 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 171 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 155 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 220 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 178 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 155 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 163 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 193 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 178 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 171 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 214 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 256 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 180 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 218 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 176 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 162 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 170 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 157 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 176 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 142 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 179 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 114 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 205 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 169 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 191 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 165 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 170 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 178 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 217 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 163 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 218 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 186 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 266 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 187 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 149 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 201 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 145 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 173 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 179 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 135 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 228 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 198 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 187 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 143 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 169 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 160 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 157 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 180 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 141 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 133 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 197 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 149 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 223 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 212 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 11:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 143 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 184 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 202 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 202 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 150 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 196 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 250 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 205 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 203 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 157 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 160 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 156 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 13:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 152 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 126 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 23:31
Re: Et Al Mountain. 146 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 00:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 136 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 131 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 131 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 168 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Audrey 19-Jan-18 17:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 134 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 145 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 140 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 243 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 159 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 132 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 121 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 124 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 127 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 109 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 81 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 143 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 127 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 00:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 187 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 97 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 145 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 158 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 151 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 148 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 150 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 119 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 152 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 133 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 155 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 88 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 151 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 152 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 177 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 119 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 145 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 147 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 147 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 156 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 116 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 119 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 105 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 164 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 120 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 143 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 66 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 126 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 153 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 116 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 157 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 126 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 20:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 154 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 139 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 124 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 168 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 100 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 143 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 145 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 23:31
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 167 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 122 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 145 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 137 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 171 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 182 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 140 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 187 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 156 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 125 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 122 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 171 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 183 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 122 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 167 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 147 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 173 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 161 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 166 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 192 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 114 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 157 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 151 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 143 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 182 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 123 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 141 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 127 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 122 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 98 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 192 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 189 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 185 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 209 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 231 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
Re: ADD 217 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 14:50
Re: ADD; add 165 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 218 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
Re: ADD 180 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:58
Re: ADD 176 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:33
Re: ADD 168 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 18:52
Re: ADD 118 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 169 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
Re: ADD 139 cladking 25-Jan-18 20:38
Re: ADD 128 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
Re: ADD 159 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 23:09
Re: ADD 174 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 117 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 130 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 171 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 205 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
Re: ADD 173 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:42
Re: ADD 131 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 192 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 160 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 210 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 132 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 148 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 129 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 163 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 228 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 161 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 98 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14