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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3528 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 487 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 493 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 504 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 334 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 256 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 272 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 254 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 244 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 253 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 299 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 267 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 270 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 269 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 247 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 269 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 301 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 270 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 279 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 279 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 271 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 269 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 276 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 271 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 264 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 303 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 300 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 273 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 283 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 316 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 246 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 265 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 272 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 220 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 232 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 231 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 222 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 233 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 221 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 222 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 296 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 226 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 225 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 237 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 51 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 47 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 21 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 39 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 321 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 238 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 286 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 235 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 322 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 223 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 260 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 271 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 275 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 215 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 234 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 240 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 223 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 313 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 236 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 252 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 232 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 234 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 225 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 249 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 230 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 247 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 37 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 270 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 22 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 455 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 414 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 347 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 242 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 260 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 269 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 265 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 243 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 270 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 299 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 263 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 226 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 244 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 282 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 236 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 256 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 218 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 227 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 224 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 226 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 230 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 272 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 214 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 222 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 210 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 236 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 221 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 267 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 233 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 216 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 229 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 209 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 218 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 288 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 263 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 252 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 291 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 240 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 236 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 278 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 242 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 293 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 258 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 270 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 261 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 260 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 274 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 221 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 197 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 233 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 232 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 252 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 243 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 247 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 262 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 342 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 287 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 250 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 224 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 228 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 242 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 250 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 249 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 259 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 246 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 272 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 274 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 258 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 233 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 282 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 222 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 208 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 218 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 249 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 291 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 235 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 264 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 303 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 249 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 297 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 301 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 302 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 233 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 222 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 172 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 176 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 183 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 158 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 193 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 188 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 177 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 136 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 162 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 138 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 132 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 142 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 171 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 166 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 147 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 154 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 166 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 197 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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