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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3537 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 491 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 493 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 510 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 337 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 259 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 277 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 258 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 249 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 257 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 300 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 270 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 270 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 273 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 250 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 272 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 306 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 275 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 286 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 280 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 276 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 276 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 281 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 274 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 269 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 309 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 306 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 278 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 286 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 320 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 252 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 270 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 276 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 224 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 236 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 236 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 229 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 238 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 225 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 225 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 299 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 232 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 228 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 240 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 51 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 48 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 22 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 42 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 325 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 241 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 291 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 238 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 326 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 227 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 265 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 275 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 279 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 219 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 239 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 245 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 227 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 317 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 239 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 257 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 236 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 239 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 228 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 253 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 233 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 250 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 37 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 278 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 22 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 460 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 418 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 350 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 243 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 265 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 272 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 269 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 247 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 273 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 303 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 267 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 230 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 250 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 288 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 241 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 259 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 222 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 231 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 229 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 229 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 234 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 276 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 218 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 227 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 215 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 241 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 225 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 273 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 240 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 220 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 233 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 215 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 222 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 293 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 270 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 255 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 296 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 244 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 240 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 283 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 247 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 297 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 262 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 273 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 264 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 265 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 280 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 226 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 198 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 237 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 234 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 256 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 247 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 250 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 266 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 347 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 291 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 253 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 228 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 232 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 245 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 255 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 252 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 263 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 246 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 276 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 279 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 259 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 237 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 287 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 227 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 213 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 220 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 253 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 294 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 236 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 265 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 306 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 254 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 301 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 306 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 307 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 237 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 226 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 176 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 181 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 184 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 161 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 193 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 192 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 179 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 140 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 166 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 141 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 134 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 144 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 174 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 170 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 152 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 158 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 170 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 201 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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