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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 2182 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 247 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 272 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 245 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 91 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 61 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 57 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 59 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 61 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 59 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 83 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 64 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 62 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 44 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 62 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 58 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 68 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 55 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 64 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 60 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 56 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 52 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 54 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 56 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 51 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 68 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 63 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 45 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 59 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 71 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 63 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 59 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 68 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 44 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 39 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 52 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 45 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 46 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 40 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 45 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 49 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 42 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 44 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 51 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Earth depicted in the sky 99 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 49 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 66 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 45 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 83 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 40 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 44 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 67 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 74 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 48 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 45 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 54 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 42 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 47 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 47 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 49 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 48 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 49 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 43 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 41 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 43 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 39 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 71 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 243 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 196 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 119 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 60 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 57 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 56 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 50 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 48 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 55 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 68 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 54 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 44 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 51 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 55 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 54 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 46 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 46 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 44 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 46 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 50 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 41 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 50 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 44 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 40 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 36 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 49 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 43 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 58 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 42 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 44 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 51 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 35 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 35 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 67 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 54 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 57 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 63 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 46 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 47 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 53 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 41 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 51 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 66 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 61 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 54 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 51 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 52 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 47 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 34 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 45 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 46 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 53 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 47 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 44 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 52 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 81 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 56 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 47 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 41 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 44 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 42 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 61 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 55 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 42 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 42 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 61 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 57 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 49 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 54 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 60 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 39 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 41 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 50 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 53 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 62 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 42 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 50 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 54 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 60 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 78 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 64 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 79 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53


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