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Hi Rod,

All that is necessary is for anyone to produce one shred of archival evidence of their having noted pi or pi approximate as a mathematical concept. The Ancient Egyptians were trained in cubits, unit fractions and seked and sadly therein lies the problem. The Ancient Egyptians by the use of unit fractions were unable to express mathematically our values of pi, phi, sqrt2, sqrt3 or sqrt5. If they were unable to express these values in their writings how could they possibly be used in their calculations or designs?

From the ancient archives problem #50 of the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, we know the Ancient Egyptian used 8/9 diameter squared to find the approximate area of a circle. The written solution says, "subtract 1/9 of of the diameter which leaves 8 khet. The area is 8 multiplied by 8, or 64 setat." Where is there any mention of pi?

There is also problem #10 of the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus calculating the the surface area of a hemisphere by a similar method. "Take 1/9 of 9 (since) the basket is half an egg-shell. You get 1 Calculate the remainder which is 8. Calculate 1/9 of 8. You get 2/3 + 1/6 + 1/18. Find the remainder of this 8 after subtracting 2/3 + 1/6 + 1/18. You get 7 + 1/9. Multiply 7 + 1/9 by 4 + 1/2. You get 32. Behold this is its area. You have found it correctly". Where is there any mention of pi.

Although everyone assumes and wants to believe otherwise neither of these methods made use of pi. There is not one mention of pi or an approximation of pi anywhere in the ancient archives. Logically if there are no notations of pi in the ancient archives it should be evident they did not feel pi important enough to their world of mathematics to be noted.

Our finding pi ratio in a circle doesn't prove a thing since finding pi, an inherent value of any circle, is what we were trained to do. Not true of the Ancient Egyptian Builders. Ten million calculation finding pi does not prove the Ancient Egyptians were aware of pi! One notation from the ancient archives will!

Jacob

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3273 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 450 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 460 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 470 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 299 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 227 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 242 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 220 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 221 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 225 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 273 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 240 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 245 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 241 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 221 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 250 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 264 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 240 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 251 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 257 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 246 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 239 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 245 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 244 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 237 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 272 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 270 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 244 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 254 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 286 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 217 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 237 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 238 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 191 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 202 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 206 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 192 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 201 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 193 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 196 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 263 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 198 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 194 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 199 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Earth depicted in the sky 291 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 214 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 261 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 211 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 282 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 199 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 234 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 241 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 244 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 188 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 204 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 211 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 192 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 274 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 210 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 227 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 206 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 207 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 197 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 219 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 200 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 205 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 244 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 428 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 388 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 315 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 223 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 231 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 238 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 237 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 217 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 240 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 270 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 236 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 201 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 214 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 241 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 211 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 227 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 192 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 200 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 201 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 201 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 204 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 241 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 186 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 200 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 186 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 211 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 196 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 235 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 208 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 190 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 204 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 187 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 192 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 261 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 237 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 224 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 258 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 214 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 208 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 249 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 218 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 262 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 230 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 240 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 229 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 222 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 246 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 196 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 181 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 207 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 207 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 223 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 211 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 215 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 234 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 297 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 255 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 221 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 198 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 201 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 213 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 223 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 225 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 223 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 226 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 243 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 240 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 233 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 209 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 253 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 198 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 184 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 191 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 222 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 262 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 216 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 241 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 269 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 222 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 270 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 274 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 274 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 193 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 191 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 142 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 144 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 162 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 133 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 167 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 159 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 147 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 110 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 138 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 106 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 114 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
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Stanton Drew 143 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 135 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 108 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 124 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 133 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 161 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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