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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3538 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 492 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 494 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 510 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 337 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 259 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 277 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 258 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 249 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 257 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 300 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 270 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 270 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 273 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 250 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 272 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 306 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 276 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 286 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 280 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 276 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 276 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 281 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 274 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 269 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 309 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 306 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 278 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 286 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 320 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 252 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 270 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 276 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 224 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 236 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 237 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 229 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 238 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 225 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 226 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 300 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 232 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 228 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 240 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 51 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 48 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 22 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 44 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 325 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 241 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 292 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 238 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 326 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 227 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 265 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 275 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 279 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 219 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 240 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 245 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 227 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 317 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 239 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 257 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 236 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 239 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 228 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 254 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 233 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 250 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 37 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 278 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 22 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 460 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 418 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 350 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 243 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 265 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 272 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 269 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 247 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 273 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 303 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 268 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 230 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 250 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 288 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 242 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 259 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 222 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 231 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 229 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 229 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 234 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 276 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 218 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 227 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 215 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 241 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 225 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 273 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 240 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 220 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 233 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 215 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 222 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 293 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 270 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 256 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 296 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 244 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 240 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 283 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 247 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 297 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 262 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 273 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 264 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 265 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 280 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 226 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 198 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 237 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 234 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 256 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 247 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 250 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 266 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 347 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 291 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 253 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 229 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 232 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 245 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 255 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 253 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 263 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 246 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 276 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 279 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 259 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 238 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 287 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 227 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 214 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 220 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 253 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 294 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 236 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 265 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 306 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 254 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 302 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 306 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 307 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 237 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 226 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 176 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 181 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 184 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 161 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 193 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 192 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 179 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 140 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 166 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 141 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 134 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 144 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 174 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 170 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 152 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 158 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 170 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 201 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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