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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 2197 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 253 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 276 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 251 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 98 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 64 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 60 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 63 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 66 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 64 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 87 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 68 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 68 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 47 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 65 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 62 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 70 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 58 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 67 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 66 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 59 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 56 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 61 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 65 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 57 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 74 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 67 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 48 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 63 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 76 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 69 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 64 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 73 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 47 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 42 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 57 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 47 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 49 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 44 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 50 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 53 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 46 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 47 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 55 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Earth depicted in the sky 105 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 52 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 69 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 48 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 92 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 43 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 49 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 73 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 80 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 52 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 50 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 58 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 44 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 50 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 51 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 54 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 52 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 52 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 46 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 45 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 48 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 42 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 75 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 247 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 202 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 125 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 64 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 60 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 59 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 59 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 52 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 59 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 73 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 59 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 47 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 54 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 59 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 56 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 51 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 49 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 48 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 49 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 52 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 45 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 54 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 47 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 43 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 39 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 52 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 47 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 63 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 47 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 48 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 54 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 38 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 38 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 72 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 61 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 60 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 68 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 50 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 49 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 56 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 45 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 59 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 71 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 64 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 60 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 56 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 58 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 49 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 37 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 49 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 50 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 57 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 51 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 48 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 56 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 89 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 61 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 50 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 44 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 47 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 45 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 64 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 59 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 46 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 45 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 68 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 60 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 55 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 59 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 65 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 42 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 43 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 52 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 57 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 67 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 47 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 57 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 58 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 63 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 83 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 68 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 85 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53


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