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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3176 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 421 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 434 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 428 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 265 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 204 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 217 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 203 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 204 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 201 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 246 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 220 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 219 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 210 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 201 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 214 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 238 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 210 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 229 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 227 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 200 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 205 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 218 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 215 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 212 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 229 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 217 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 194 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 221 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 234 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 204 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 219 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 209 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 178 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 175 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 192 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 175 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 181 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 171 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 180 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 212 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 181 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 176 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 184 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Earth depicted in the sky 253 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 195 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 231 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 188 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 235 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 180 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 192 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 223 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 222 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 175 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 190 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 190 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 174 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 224 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 187 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 196 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 190 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 184 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 182 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 180 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 182 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 186 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 225 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 394 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 364 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 284 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 204 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 191 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 211 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 208 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 196 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 209 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 221 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 212 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 183 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 191 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 211 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 192 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 196 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 177 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 187 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 185 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 184 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 185 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 207 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 167 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 175 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 169 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 186 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 181 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 209 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 190 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 176 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 187 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 172 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 169 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 226 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 210 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 208 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 231 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 182 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 185 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 203 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 190 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 220 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 205 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 211 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 206 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 196 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 214 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 180 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 164 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 187 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 188 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 201 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 191 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 183 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 208 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 250 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 223 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 189 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 179 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 186 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 180 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 203 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 203 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 193 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 196 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 217 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 205 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 210 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 189 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 219 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 179 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 166 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 170 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 200 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 216 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 183 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 212 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 219 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 196 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 245 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 227 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 247 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 160 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 166 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 106 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 116 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 133 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 105 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 137 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 130 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 125 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 100 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 120 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 94 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 97 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 109 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 111 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 100 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 86 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 97 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 113 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 133 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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