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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3635 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 530 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 534 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 556 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 369 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 290 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 314 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 288 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 285 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 287 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 339 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 307 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 303 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 305 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 287 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 302 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 349 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 311 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 317 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 310 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 309 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 316 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 314 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 309 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 301 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 346 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 339 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 312 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 319 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 353 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 282 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 300 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 313 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 250 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 266 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 266 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 263 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 270 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 257 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 257 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 339 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 264 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 258 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 268 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 73 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 72 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 44 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 108 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 361 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 270 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 333 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 275 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 365 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 256 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 298 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 301 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 306 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 252 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 282 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 280 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 255 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 359 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 276 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 288 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 267 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 271 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 260 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 295 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 267 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 278 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 60 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 312 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 44 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 497 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 450 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 379 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 268 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 294 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 311 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 299 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 280 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 302 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 337 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 303 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 258 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 277 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 335 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 281 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 293 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 253 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 261 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 261 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 261 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 265 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 307 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 254 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 269 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 247 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 272 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 256 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 311 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 272 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 245 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 264 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 247 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 252 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 327 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 304 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 289 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 332 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 275 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 269 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 315 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 280 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 343 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 302 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 310 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 305 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 301 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 316 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 254 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 225 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 265 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 264 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 296 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 283 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 291 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 298 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 386 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 327 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 281 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 258 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 259 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 270 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 287 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 285 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 305 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 275 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 308 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 317 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 291 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 267 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 322 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 257 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 250 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 248 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 284 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 325 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 267 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 295 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 338 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 281 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 337 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 339 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 341 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 295 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 259 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 210 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 222 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 215 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 196 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 221 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 222 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 213 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 169 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 195 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 165 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 160 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 171 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 204 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 211 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 191 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 187 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 200 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 231 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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