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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.

*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3731 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 554 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 559 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 578 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 403 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 315 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 337 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 315 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 311 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 314 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 366 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 326 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 325 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 330 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 311 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 324 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 378 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 338 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 342 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 332 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 339 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 335 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 336 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 334 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 322 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 374 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 363 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 332 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 363 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 375 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 301 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 325 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 335 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 270 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 300 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 283 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 292 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 301 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 278 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 273 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 372 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 281 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 274 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 284 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 86 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 92 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 59 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 136 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 381 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 288 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 359 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 293 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 412 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 275 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 312 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 318 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 326 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 270 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 304 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 310 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 277 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 395 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 291 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 306 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 291 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 289 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 280 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 312 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 287 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 293 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 76 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 341 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 58 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 523 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 474 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 406 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 292 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 314 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 377 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 319 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 300 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 323 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 361 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 324 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 273 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 293 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 381 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 300 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 332 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 272 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 277 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 276 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 278 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 295 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 331 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 282 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 285 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 265 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 288 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 270 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 334 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 294 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 260 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 280 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 266 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 270 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 353 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 328 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 311 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 357 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 295 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 290 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 339 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 295 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 366 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 319 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 330 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 342 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 329 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 352 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 278 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 241 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 282 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 281 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 319 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 305 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 315 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 320 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 422 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 349 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 302 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 275 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 277 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 290 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 302 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 311 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 341 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 300 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 330 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 341 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 313 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 287 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 345 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 277 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 267 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 267 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 307 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 348 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 292 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 317 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 363 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 294 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 373 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 362 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 362 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 322 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 280 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 244 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 253 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 241 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 213 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 244 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 241 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 250 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 188 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 211 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 183 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 176 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 189 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 235 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 242 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 217 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 205 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 217 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 253 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48

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