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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3240 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 436 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 450 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 460 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 287 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 217 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 232 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 214 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 216 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 209 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 260 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 233 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 232 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 225 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 212 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 240 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 252 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 224 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 240 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 239 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 224 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 221 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 232 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 228 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 223 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 251 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 244 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 218 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 237 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 263 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 212 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 230 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 225 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 186 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 186 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 200 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 184 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 190 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 182 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 188 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 239 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 188 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 185 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 192 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Earth depicted in the sky 272 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 205 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 247 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 197 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 257 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 191 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 213 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 232 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 235 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 183 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 196 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 202 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 184 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 248 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 198 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 209 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 198 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 195 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 188 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 193 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 189 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 200 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 235 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 408 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 377 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 301 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 218 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 212 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 226 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 226 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 208 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 229 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 247 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 223 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 194 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 207 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 225 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 200 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 216 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 186 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 194 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 193 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 193 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 195 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 224 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 178 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 185 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 178 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 194 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 190 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 223 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 198 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 185 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 196 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 178 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 182 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 241 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 222 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 215 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 242 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 197 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 197 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 227 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 198 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 238 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 220 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 228 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 215 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 210 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 234 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 188 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 174 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 197 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 199 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 213 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 205 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 198 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 223 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 272 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 240 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 206 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 191 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 197 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 195 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 215 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 214 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 209 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 212 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 233 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 229 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 224 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 201 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 234 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 189 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 175 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 181 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 214 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 244 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 200 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 225 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 236 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 204 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 257 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 262 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 259 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 175 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 181 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 122 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 127 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 152 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 117 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 150 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 149 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 138 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 107 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 130 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 102 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 108 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 117 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 133 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 116 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 101 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 111 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 123 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 150 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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