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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 509 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 337 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 371 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 274 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 342 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 310 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 300 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 292 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 353 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 245 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 259 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 326 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 253 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 285 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 304 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 223 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 264 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
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Re: SC deflection 256 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 216 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 206 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 221 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 248 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 212 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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just to be clear... 246 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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